Flu Jab

Both I and a fteind have been suffering friom a strange set of symptonms. We feel like we have hangovers, cant get much together and we both feel sleepy - I have spent something like 16 hours in the last 24 actually asleep.
Anyone else had this? Its supposed to be a fairtly nasty inoculation, but its supposed to pass off in a couple of days. I am on day three I think ...lost track of time a bit.
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which of the three age groups did they stick you in ? .....
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Which flu jab is supposed to be more effective: trivalent or quadrivalent?
I can't find anything which clearly states this. Some article mention cost in passing and maybe that's a factor.
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That can't be known until after the flu season is over because it is never possible to know how it will mutate during the flu season.

Because that can't be known in advance.

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On 20/10/18 18:35, Pamela wrote:

Depends on which age group you are in. The under 65s get the quadrivalent; the over 65s get "adjuvanted trivalent". The adjuvanted is intended to invoke a much greater reaction from the body's immune system than unaduvanted vaccine. More info here: <http://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/inactivated-flu-vaccine
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Good link. I wonder why everyone does not get the "adjuvanted" version?
The quadrivalent seems about a third more expensive which is not such a big deal that makes cost an overriding issue.
https://bnf.nice.org.uk/medicinal-forms/influenza-vaccine.html
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On 20/10/18 19:40, Pamela wrote:

See <https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/733840/Influenza_green_book_chapter19.pdf>, in particular "Vaccine effectiveness on Page 8.
The Green Book is the "bible" for immunisation against infectious disease. For further info see <https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/immunisation-against-infectious-disease-the-green-book>
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 19:40:31 +0100, Pamela wrote:

Risk/reward.
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 19:25:55 +0100, Jeff Layman

As well as the flu jab, I had the pneumonia one. Nurse said the latter might make my arm a little sore for a day or so. A little sore! It hurt like hell for quite a few days; I couldn't sleep at night and had to take Solpadeine Max to ease the pain; lasted for five or six days before it finally became bearable! So, be warned!
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On 20/10/2018 19:50, Chris Hogg wrote:

yes. I am supposed to get that one as well.
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 20:05:56 +0100, The Natural Philosopher

I had the pneumonia jab a few years ago and don't recall any adverse reaction.
However I've developed severe colds after the last two flu injections, the second requiring anti-biotics to clear up a resulting chest infection so am tempted to go without this year.
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Chris Hogg wrote:

I had both a few years ago (76) and almost no symptoms, either you lot get weird jabs or it is something in the weather.
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On 21/10/2018 06:44, FMurtz wrote:

It changes every year; last year's wasn't reckoned very effective, perhaps it has been beefed up this year.
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On 21/10/2018 11:02, newshound wrote:

Like bovine instead of avian? That bird flu scaremongering *was* getting tedious.
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 11:21:32 +0100, Richard wrote:

I know. Pandemics are so boring.
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On 21/10/2018 13:23, Jethro_uk wrote:

We're still here.
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On 20/10/2018 19:50, Chris Hogg wrote:

I had the pneumonia one 3 years ago, and didn't have any reactions or symptoms at all. But I refused the useless flu jab, so maybe it's a bad combination.
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On 20/10/2018 19:50, Chris Hogg wrote:

One of our regulars didn't turn up for a meeting on Thursday. Found out on Friday that pneumonia got him on Monday, funeral is next week.
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must be battling my FK506 then ...it tries to lower my immune system .....nothing felt though ......
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Yes, I read it all and decided against doctors orders to steer clear. The last time I had one I caught something totally different, A urine infection and a skin infection. I suggested to her that while the immune system was busy fighting something that was not there, it missed the bleedin obvious stuff out there. She said it does not work like that, well, Maybe I am an alien hen, as that is exactly how it seemed to work for me!
Also, interestingly, a growing number of friends on mine of similar age have been going down with a mild form of Shingles. The first bit is tiredness, then intense irritation then the nasty Chicken pox like lesions on one part of the body. it seems that as we never had the chicken pox vaccine and had it as kinds we are several times more likely to succumb to it as it never goes away, and while immunity is either busy elsewhere or depleted due to stress it makes it way up the nerves it hides in and bursts out.It can be very painful. I'm keeping everything crossed that I'm not getting it! No sign of the itching as yet, so its probably just a run of the mill virus. Brian
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