12V 2A power supply

Why?

CPC or Rapid.

If it's for audio, I would build my own linear supply.

MBQ

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Given my current task list I need something ready built. CPC looks promising. All I have to do now is confirm the aperture size and pin size for the connector. There are a lot of LCD TV/Monitor PSUs at around the right price.

I assume I have no chance of finding a linear power supply below £100.

Reply to
David WE Roberts
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You'll likely need 'tone controls' to get the best out of ceiling speakers.

A decent power supply often costs much more than the amp itself. A 60 vA transformer alone will cost about 20 quid.

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Dave Plowman (News)

picturesque using 1920s technology. Perhaps a well polished breadboard with transformer, motor rectifier, output synchronisation meter driving a big open relay, and a few large LCs to clean up the output. Wire it all with bare square wire bent to square routes 1920s style, add a row of screw terminals and bare wire fuses, put an ebonite cover on the twisted pair mains connection and you're done.

You'd want to do it on black slate, mate, with polished brass screw terminals.

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Grimly Curmudgeon

Id rather do it on a futon with a Polish screwed brass.

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The Natural Philosopher

A CB benchtop power supply, as used to be dead common. 13.8V, 10A, for a tenner or twenty quid. Two quid down the boot sale, guv.

Reply to
Grimly Curmudgeon

You could use a motorcycle battery and a cheap 12v supply as we did for CB and the first car radios for the home use. The battery will supply all the transient current you could want and the output would be stable.

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Gary

But you can squeeze a bit more out of it if the psu doesn't sag. And since 12v4A regulated psus cost no more nowadays its worthwhile.

13.2v amps run fine on 12v, but again with just slightly less max power output.

NT

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meow2222

That'll work, for sure. I'd only use that if the battery was really spare or end-of-life for car/bike use and if there was an available float charger to keep it up. Knowing someone in a workshop, where there are dud and semi-dud batteries available all the time, would be useful. In other words, I'd not spend money on buying a battery for the job.

As it happens, I'm buying a similar 100W mobile amp for workshop use and there will be an old 70Ah car battery, topped up with a Lidl float charger, under the bench, feeding it. If that battery eventually pegs out, I don't care all that much, and if the one from the van pegs out, ditto, because it's sitting idle and probably won't last much longer.

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Grimly Curmudgeon

Interesting ideas but a 12V battery and a charger tend to go against the minimalist approach I am chasing. I am just looking for something a bit more stable than a wallwart.

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David WE Roberts

Only difference is a regulated supply can only sag downwards. It doesn't magic up more current. That is down to the transformer rating and reservoir capacitor ratings. Of course if it's a SMPS, it will likely be regulated anyway.

Quite. Hence there being no need for regulation on a power amp PS. Over-current protection is a different matter.

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Dave Plowman (News)

I doubt you could fit a 12 volt 5 amp supply in a wall wart anyway.

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Dave Plowman (News)

Well, I also have a very expensive, ultra-stable bench power supply of

12V 50A, which I bought when the Seagate factory shut down. It cost all of a tenner. A few years ago I looked it up and the new price was about 800quid.
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Grimly Curmudgeon

Thank you for ruining my evening ;-)

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David WE Roberts

Wouldn't like to bet on it, taking the size of some of the linear wall warts here and the size you can get a 12V 5A SMPS's... B-)

Linear would be a problem I think.

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Dave Liquorice

Yeah but when it sags down there is less power available. Poor power supply regulation does affect the "sound" of an audio amp particularly when driven hard with decent bass.

A generously rated transformer and good reservoir capacitors improve the regulation of the PS.

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Dave Liquorice

Depends what you mean by regulation. A generous transformer and caps will simply let the voltage go higher when the amp is producing little power - assuming it's not a class A design. Which doesn't much matter. A regulated supply will hold the voltage constant. Which isn't needed.

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Dave Plowman (News)

Ah the Marshal 'Punch'

Wit a crappy cheap underspec transformer and some rather larger HT capacitors,. you could get another 50W out of it if you played the chords staccato..

Which with MOST music is pretty irrelevant. MOST music has short duration peaks. Hence 'music power' ratings. Just put in big capacitors.

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The Natural Philosopher

Oh, don't worry; I doubt if they paid full list price for it. :)

Reply to
Grimly Curmudgeon

Just to check - the amp is a TA2020 so which class is it?

Reply to
David WE Roberts

No, regulated supplies are designed to have no sag within their ratings, no movement up or down.

It *will* be regulated.

A nonsequitor there. Regulation addresses loss of peak power due to rail sag, eliminates unnecessary amp heating and power waste, and for very small supplies excessive voltage at low load.

NT

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meow2222

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