I keep telling you to go take a course or two in economics
so you can stop making an ass of yourself. To attribute the
decent economy during the Bush years to govt spending
on security is totally bogus. And what exactly would you libs
have done after 911 Sent a cake to Bin Laden?
Exactly how was Iraq going to prevent Iran from developing
nuclear weapons? The more logical scenario would be for
Iraq to acquire their own nukes. As for destroying Iraq, polls
of the Iraqis show the mahjority think the liberation of Iraq
was a good thing. Why is it that the libs, who are supposed
to be so concerned about everyones rights, usually wind up
siding with dictators?
We can start working on that right after we get done paying off
the $4tril that Obama has added in just 3 years. And the $10tril
his last budget forecast adding over the next 10 years.
Why is it only war debt that concerns you? The cost of both
the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan come to about $1.3 tril. That
is for two wars lasting a decade. Obama managed to add
$4tril in new debt, so war is clearly not the major cause of
deficits and the national debt.
The debacle the Dems suffered a year ago was NOT by
It was pretty easy to see by the tenor of the protests when
Get over it. Union membership has been steadily declining
since the 70s. Voters in many states have had enough of
paying generous salaries, full health care benefits, then seeing
civil service folks retire at 50 to take on a second civil service
position while collecting a generous pension for the first. Of
of holding down TWO civil service jobs at the same time. Or
of toll collectors making $100K+, as is going on here in NJ.
So politicians are making some changes, like asking those
civil service workers to pay part of their medical insurance
costs, just like most of the taxpayers who are paying their
I'll just wait for the election that's less than a year away.
Boy, you sure don't understand economics. Government spending drives DOWN
the GDP and destroys wealth.
We saw that when Roosevelt implemented all manner of government jobs
programs back in the 30's and we see it now with stimulus and government
So the construction workers who find themselves employed again -- by
companies that bid successfully on govt. projects -- building and
repairing roads and bridges, etc. don't have "real jobs" -- they would
be better off doing something else?
But that is not to say that the projects might cost less if they were
built by government employees instead of being contracted out.
I didn't say construction workers didn't have "real" jobs. I said government
spending destroys wealth.
These "real" workers are getting paid by tax money. This tax money was
extracted from citizens (or borrowed) and thereby removed from the GDP. SOME
of it, less a handling charge, graft, waste, redundancy, and lack of
necessity, was, admittedly, put back in to the economy.
"Transfers wealth." Hurricanes, wars and even time can "destroy" wealth.*
Government jobs for the unemployed "transfers" wealth. It's an important
distinction. The salary paid to that formerly unemployed worker then moves
on into the hands of grocers, landlords, local governments, etc.
*Fruit rots, things go obsolete or out of style. A stash of brand new 20MB
drives has lost most of its "wealth" since 1984. NIB Star Wars toys of that
era have gained as much wealth as 20MB hard drives have lost.
How well has your idea of wealth transfer worked in Greece? Or
which is close behind? How much better of are the people, the
What they've done is create a country of people that are like spoiled
children. Govt jobs have been paid salaries, vacations, days off,
healthcare benefits, ets that were all far too generous. For the
of the population, socialism provided everything from unemployment,
to healthcare and welfare, whether anyone wanted to work or not.
Now the country is bankrupt from all the wealth that has been
transferred. What Heybub is referring to is that if that wealth had
been left in the private sector, REAL wealth would have been
As for your comment about a hard drive having wealth, perhaps
it's time for that course in economics.
You have to admit that poor Rick seems to have a lot of "deer in the
headlights" moments. Many more than the Speechifier in Chief who *got* the
job primarily because of his oratorial abilities. It certainly wasn't
because of his years of executive experience.
Now if Rick could somehow wife swap his way to Katy Perry, singer of the
infamous "I Kissed a Girl . . " he might jump back up in the ratings.
What we need is a superhot first lady to "absorb" all the interest of
pseudo-reporters/gossip columnists so that her husband can govern the
country unbothered by the paparazzi press. Maybe he could adopt her as the
superhot first daughter . . . Hey, if Romney, Perry and Cain are all they've
got, the Republicans are in trouble.
Nah-- At this time in 2003 the Ds were trying to decide between Dean,
Clark and Gebhardt. It wasn't until Feb. that Kerry arose to
'save' them. So don't count out grandpa M. . . Ron Paul. At
least it should be entertaining for the next year.
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