The smell of beetroot makes me feel sick, so does the smell of petrol
and petrol/ diesel fumes.
Let's ban all cars/ lorries/ buses/ trucks/ petrol lawnmowers etc and
beetroot should be banned in all public places.
Life throws up many things that others do, that we don't like so why not
just accept reality.
I imagine beetroot isn't all that common enough in any given public
place to make an issue out of it.
As far as gas fumes go, people have put a lot of effort into producing
electric cars and actually hope to make them the car of the future.
That kind of smoke make people sick, too.
Fire fighters wear breathing equipment because that smoke isn't good to
breathe, either. People die from smoke inhalation, and they also have
similar physical responses to forest fire smoke that people have from
secondhand cigarette smoke.
OK fine, why aren't you campaigning to ban wood stoves, fire places
and back yard charcoal grills?
A neighbor can burn 40 pounds of wood in an evening with impunity but
if he is burning a gram of tobacco and you smell it, you go ballistic.
I doubt there is s suburb in America where you don't smell a whiff of
wood smoke in the winter or the smell of grilling meat in the summer.
By your definition, if you can smell it, you are being harmed.
When a bagel gets sideways in the toaster, do you evacuate the house
and stay in a hotel until the place is decontaminated?
On 5/29/2016 10:34 AM, email@example.com wrote:
If you'd like to debate a different topic, start another thread. This
topic is about smokers and smoking, right?
Moving the goal posts and trying to change the subject doesn't change
the facts about smoking or secondhand smoke and it's dangers.
Your exaggerating my reaction. I don't go ballistic - I GET SICK from
secondhand smoke. Those are 2 separate responses. One is an emotional
response, and the other is a physical response that can't be controlled,
unlike an emotional response CAN be controlled.
On 5/29/2016 12:03 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Tobacco smoke is the main smoke I've been affected by, but other smoke I
have similar reactions, too. VOC's mostly make me sick to my stomach
and I can get headaches from them.
No, wood smoke contains "a complex mixture of gases and fine particles
(also called particle pollution, particulate matter, or PM). These
microscopic particles can get into your eyes and respiratory system,
where they can cause health problems such as burning eyes, runny nose,
and illnesses such as bronchitis. In addition to particle pollution,
wood smoke contains several toxic harmful air pollutants including:
benzene, formaldhyde, acrolein and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs).
There are approximately 600 ingredients in cigarettes. When burned, they
create more than 7,000 chemicals. At least 69 of these chemicals are
known to cause cancer, and many are poisonous.
You cited 2 studies from different sources trying to prove different
things and you are shocked they do not say exactly the same thing.
Any when site with "stop smoking" in it's URL is going to be using
skewed data to make it's point. We still have to talk about dosage and
TLVs if we want to talk about inhalation hazards. Anything else is
But we are singling out one of those sources for arrest and
prosecution while accepting all others.
There are people who get sick looking at gay people but that does not
mean it should be an illegal activity. This is just political
correctness run amok. The anti smoking crowd is telling smokers they
can't even have a bar dedicated to smokers, far from anyone who might
be offended by it. They say they need "equal access" to that bar so
they can be offended and close it down. Smokers seem to be the only
group of people who have no rights in this country.
Explain why there can't be a "smoker bar" or restaurant. If you are
offended or fear for your life, don't go near the place.
We abolished slavery 151 years ago. If the employees don't want to
work around smokers, they can seek employment elsewhere.
We had 2 restaurants here, same franchise, less than a mile apart. The
owner wanted to make one smoking and one non-smoking. The smoke
ninnies were not happy with that and he ended up closing the smoking
one. This was a BBQ joint that was full of hickory smoke all the time,
selling high fat foods. (the last place I know of that still fries
potatoes in animal fat) Health freaks would not go to either of them.
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