Much depends on where you live in the time zone. Here in the east the
extra hour at night is nice and it is still light at 5AM in June on DST.
I really don't need it light at 4AM when I'm still sleeping. One the
western edge of the zone it is about an hour different so I'd be happy
to stay on standard time.
On 03/14/2016 02:06 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Whether either "more hours of daylight in the evening" or "more hours of
daylight in the morning" are true of not, we still have zero net benefit.
Actually less than zero, considering the amount of free time converted
to wasted time (setting clocks, etc...).
Years ago Virginia didn't do DST. I was driving south, stopped for
breakfast, and noticed the diner clock was off. I didn't think I'd
crossed a timezone so I asked the waitress. "That's God's time" was her
reply. Welcome to Dixie.
AZ isn't as bad an Indiana used to be. When I worked there the state
didn't do DST and the official state time was CST. However, the corner
up by Chicago kept Chicago time, and the areas down by Cincinnati kept
Ohio time. If you asked anyone what time it was, the non-committal reply
was '20 minutes after the hour'. The welcome center on the interstate
had a brochure on how to tell time in Indiana.
Then there's Navaholand...
One just "forgets" about savings vs standard time, here. Kinda like
forgetting about *winter*!
Then, you go to call someone out of state and discover they've left
for the day ("But it's only 4PM... isn't it?") or haven't yet
And, my WWV/CHU clock doesn't know that we don't observe DST. So,
I have to tell it "we've moved to California" to "fix it".
To some extent, it was easier when we had to remember to change the
On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 21:51:56 -0500, email@example.com wrote:
Dairy farmers actually change their scheduled milking time over about a
week's time. They change the time by about 10 minutes per day for a
week. An abrupt change of an hour will cut production and even upsets
some of the cows. This is not a joke. I know several dairy farmers r
their workers. One worker just told me he starts 10 minutes sooner
tomorrow (or is it later, I always get confused by this). I actually
thought thy were joking, but they were not. He explained the 10 minute
per day shift change in the next week, and was real serious about it.
That makes me glad I dont have daily cows. Any other cattle, horses or
other livestock do not need to be fed on such a tight schedule. In fact,
I feed mine a little different each day, normally within a 3 hour range.
That keeps them from getting hung up on a strict schedule, so they dont
get all worked up and noisy if they are not fed exactly the same each
day, and is a lot easier on me or whoever feeds them too. Occasionally,
during severe weather conditions, (heavy rain, blizzards, other severe
weather), they may get feed even longer, or get fed a lot sooner than
usual, to accomodate the weather. If they are not on a precise feeding
schedule, they dont make a big fuss when their schedule is all screwed
up due to weather, or other unexpected conditions, such as my car breaks
down, and I have to locate someone else to feed my animals.
Animals are not as stupid as most people think. They have a built in
"clock", mostly based on the sunlight, and they somehow adjust it for
the seasonal longer or shorter daylight times.
By the way, the time changed on March 13 @ 2.00am (NOT on March 12).
On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 04:13:19 -0600, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
You are talking about modern farmers. Old time farmers got their time
cues from the sun, not the clock. They would adjust by a few minutes a
day, every day for the 4 solar seasons without really noticing that
much, just like their animals.
I do find it interesting that my dog adjusts to DST faster than I do.
His time cues seem to be apparent right away.
On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 11:21:02 -0400, email@example.com wrote:
I think many farmers still go by the sun, but when they hire people to
help with the milking, (which most large dairy operations do), they have
to use a clock to make sure the hired help is there on time. The person
who told me about this, is "hired help" on a large dairy farm, and THEY
are the ones who have to adjust their schedule over the next week or so.
That is not really true, there will be more sunlight every successive
day until June 21, then the days start getting shorter again. DST is
reflecting that, based on when the sun goes down, and gives an
apparently longer time between getting off work and dark.
I agree it might be easier for employers to simply let people start
work sooner in the summer but they want the whole area to be in sync.
I am retired and I am never sure what time it is anyway so I really
don't care anyway.
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