Ideally, people pay attention to the road. For me,
the reallity is that much of the time when I'm
driving, my mind is on other things.
One anecdotal experience, is when I got my first cell
phone. It was an early model, and set and cord, goes
to a bag with a cod and antenna. I had only been on
it for a couple minutes, and I was nearly in a wreck.
I'd not yet learned the skill of paying most attention
to the road, and less to the conversation. Since that
time, I've seldom talked on the phone while rolling.
But, I have developed more skill at paying attention
to the road.
I don't use the phone often while driving, and in the past had a blue
tooth earphone that would answer a call automatically, so everything was
hands free. Never had a problem with hands free and talking on the
phone that way. The next phone I got had an awkward blue tooth device
and I hated it, so chucked it and haven't used it. Rarely get a call
while driving, and usually ignore it when it rings. I can always call
them back. If I'm in stop and go traffic and at a stop light and it
rings, I may answer it and tell them I'll call them back.
This is an interesting place to get information. At the bottom is a
link to a multitude of studies.
Additionally, there is much information about the myth of multi tasking.
On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 7:10:02 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
I think you're lost in space again. Listening to music doesn't
require your concentration, you're paying attention to every word,
so you can understand what the person on the phone is saying.
It also doesn't require typing in numbers, looking up numbers
in directories, responding because it's suddenly ringing and it
may be your boss, texting, etc.
What about talking to passengers in a car? If listening to music isn't
considered to be a distraction, then talking to passengers wouldn't be
considered to be a distraction, either, correct? Or, some may say all
of those things are distractions, so then why would talking on a
cellphone be any more or less a distraction than the others things I listed?
My comment said, "I highly doubt it's any more distracting than playing
music might be."
Many people have adapted to multitasking. Driving in an act of
multitasking all by itself.
Any distraction is only significant if the one dealing with the
distraction is not adept at multitasking, or they've added some sort of
impairment to their ability to pay attention.
On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 11:12:35 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
Wrong, for obvious reasons. A typical person is not nearly as
engaged with listening to music as they are with a conversation
with a person.
Or, some may say all
You can't understand that there can be different levels of distraction?
You're as distracted when you're listening to music on a radio as you
are when you're talking to your boss or a customer on a cell phone?
Yes, and again, it's still wrong.
Tests, simulations have shown that most people do have problems when
talking on cell phones and that it's a source of accidents. Hell,
unless you're blind you'd see it yourself. I regularly see people
in cars on the highway, where the car is starting to weave, drift
into my lane, or the gutter, slow down for no reason, etc. When I
look closely, most of the time they are screwing around with a cell phone.
Where did you get that information? I've seen people talking to their
radio's, singing with their music, and otherwise interacting with the
controls. That would seem to be distracting to me don't you think??
Sure, there are different levels of distraction, but a persons brain is
still engaged with interacting with something besides the road and their
In your opinion, but not everyone agrees with that assessment. I can
understand both sides of the discussion, tho.
I wonder how accurate those simulations are because people behave
differently when they know they're being tested.
I've seen those things happen too, but I wonder why I don't hear about
more accidents. It might just be that everyone is more aware of the use
of cell phones so we're all paying more attention to the people who get
distracted while driving.
On Monday, August 17, 2015 at 1:48:52 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
Of course you see people talking to their radio. But try looking
around on those days when they let you leave the mental institution
and see what you see then. But then maybe they don't let you out.
That could explain a lot.
Irrelevant because the level of distraction matters.
I have to agree with that.
Used to vanpool to work and therefore had the luxury of studying other
Every so often I would see a guy reading a news paper while driving in
50-60 mph traffic. Not just stealing furtive glances... I mean
*reading* that sucker.
I have no clue how somebody does that and survives, but I've seen it
firsthand. I guess some people's brains just work better than most
peoples' in that situation.
I agree with you, however, have you ever seen anyone playing a musical
instrument while driving?I never have.
Listening to music though, is far different that talking on the phone.
The brain can easily tune out the radio since it is a passive activity.
The phone requires your active participation and concentration. It
has been proven many times.
So using a cell phone should be much more dangerous AND result in a
SIGNIFICANT increase in accidents over the past 20 years as the use of
cell phones has exploded. Yet there isn't the slightest evidence of
that in the accident data.
According to NBC new tonight they are. We are on track to be higher
than 2009, a 14% increase. Could be the highest number of fatalities in
years. They said 55% were speed related, 25% cell phone related.
One of you is using the wrong statistics. Me thinks you are FOS.
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:03:18 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
You're talking fatalities, which is even further removed from accidents
Why do you persist in muddling what is so very simple.
You and I believe that cellphone use is distracting enough to cause
accidents, yet, those accidents aren't happening.
What part of that is full of shit?
(Do you have *better* accident statistics?)
If so, show them.
On the other hand, a growing number of states are raising speed limits,
and everywhere drivers are distracted by cellphone calls and text
messages. The council estimated in a report this spring that a quarter
of all crashes involve cellphone use. Besides fatal crashes, that
includes injury-only and property damage-only crashes.
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