Replace toilet base

[teser3]

I am replacing toilet in 35 year old bathroom. When I took the toilet off I removed the wax ring. The wax ring sat on a black base part that sits on the floor and goes into the drainage. It broke and I need a new one. It seems to have two parts with the upper part that sits on the floor and the lower part that is like a short tub going into the drainage area. Is this a univeral part and do I need to put any special silicone on the new one when I put it in?

[Speedy Jim]

The part in the floor is the "closet flange". Black means ABS plastic (likely).

You will need more info.

You *may* be able to use an expansion flange like:

or: Or one of these: just "repair" the broken flange edge with replacement ring.

The again, you could be in over your head. You decide...

Jim

[teser3]

Thanks,

For the closet flange it looks similiar to what I have with the tube part that goes into the drainage at 4 inches wide and the whole part is 3.5 inches height. Do I need any silicone when I put it in? And if I need the tube part that connects to drainage what kind of silicone do I use?

[Speedy Jim]

The first one with the rubber seal at the bottom doesn't need any sealant.

The plastic fittings are normally "solvent welded" using a special glue. For the black plastic, it is ABS cement. Silicone sealant (RTV)

*could* be used, but it's not a recognized method.

The flange should be anchored to the floor, if possible.

[CM]

Yes you could use RTV sealant like Speedy Jim said and then go back later after the RTV sealant fails and do the whole job over again.

cm

[Mark H]

35 years old I would say its cast iron

[hallerb]

On Apr 26, 10:55=EF=BF=BDam, " [e-mail]" wrote= :

sounds like the flange is broke, i have had that happen..........

cast iron normally has leaded in connection not DIY friendly.........

it cant be gooed together and ust be replaced

[Stormin Mormon]

Home Depot, and many small town hardware stores have flanges that slip in, and then tighten with an allen wrench.

First, go out and kill a woodchuck. Next, shut off the water to the toilet, and drain it as best possible. Turkey baster works nicely. Remove water line, and two bolts which hold the toilet down. Remove toilet. Flange, if cracked, can be removed in chunks. Beat the flange with BFH, it breaks apart. Insert new flange. Go kill a couple squirrels, launch them with a strainer and bungees. aim for cement wall. Tighten flange. Reinstall toilet. Shim toilet to reduce wobble.