Receptacles -- # of wires per screw

On 2/9/2009 9:24 PM RonABC spake thus:

I don't have the answer to this, and would like to know what (if anything) the NEC has to say about it.

My own guideline is only 1 wire per screw, including ground screws: use pigtails when more connections are needed. No need to ask for trouble.

It may be a function of how the devices are designed rather than an NEC ruling. If they were not designed and/or UL listed to have more than one wire that in itself I believe would fall under some general NEC guidelines. But not sure what section?

I am pretty sure you must wirenut the grounds. Using the special green wirenuts with the feed hole makes this much easier. As far as I know NEC does not require pigtails on the other wires but some local codes do. Pigtails are better as a device failure is not as likely to take out other devices down stream.

I prefer back feed type outlets which will take as many as 4 wires on each side. Not as good as using pigtails but better and much easier than wrapping wires around screws.

On occasion I will feed 2+ outlets or switches with a single wire. I strip enough insulation off to wrap around a screw then continue the same wire to the next outlet/switch.

Kevin

the multiple cable outlet should be pigtailed out anyway. Only ONE black, ONE white, and ONE bare go to the outlet. To daisy chain them using the multiple screws is sloppy and asking for trouble.

On 2/9/2009 10:12 PM Steve Barker spake thus:

Are you saying not to use both screws on a duplex outlet? I do this all the time, and it seems perfectly safe and sensible, and saves a lot of unnecessary pigtailing.

Unless I'm misunderstanding what you said.

If the receptacle had 2 green screws, or if you attached two wires to the one screw, removing the receptacle would leave all the downstream devices ungrounded until you hook it back up. With only one ground wire going to it, the downstream devices are not dependent on it for their grounds.

(I too *love* those heavy-duty back-wired outlets with all the clamp terminals on the back. They work great for tying a bunch of cables together -- but not the ground conductors.)

Bob

One wire, one screw. Not sure how two wires would even fit under one screw, and if you did it would probably not be very secure. Sometimes you have to use a pigtail. For most electrical outlets there are two screws for the hot, two screws for the neutral, and one for the ground.

There are a couple of code sections that would apply: Mostly in section 110 that require equipment be installed as per manufacturer instructions, installed in a workmanlike manner, also 110.14A, which mentions that terminals for more than one conductor shall be so identified

By placing the receptacle in parallel with the circuit by pigtailing, downstream outlets are unaffected by a problem with the receptacle, or its outright removal.

No, the grounds are bare so it is easy to twist them together in the back of the box and cut one off short. Then you hook the remaining wire over the single green screw and tighten it down.

For fixtures where you "need" to connect two wires to a single screw, take a short length of same-colored wire and bug it on to the two wires as a pigtail using a crimped Buchanan connector or a wire nut.

Thanks. I think that's it. I don't think I've ever seen anything on any electrical terminals that identify them as being for more than one conductor, but I'll have to try looking at different devices and maybe the manufacturer specifications for each device.

I assume that you mean twist them together using a wire nut (such as a green one with a hole in the center), since just twisting them together without one doesn't meet the code.

Also, if the wire that is cut off short leaves it with less than 6 inches of wire in the box, that would not meet the code requirements.

Yes. The code requirement is at 250.148-B.

For a multiwire branch circuit (with a common neutral), if you break the neutral while the circuit is hot the downstream voltages can shift. As above, I believe the neutral has to be spliced, with a single wire to a receptacle. (Briefly looking, I couldn't find a code requirement.)

On 2/10/2009 5:37 AM Seth Goodman spake thus:

But the only problem with the receptacle that could affect downstream devices would be if the metal "bridge" between the two screws somehow burned or melted out; pretty unlikely to happen. I still think this is a perfectly good wiring method.

Personally, I'm curious about receptacles with screw clamps. Each clamp has two holes where wires can be inserted, and there are 4 clamps. That could be one pile of wires. I prefer to use pigtails on any receptacle with more than four wires.

Thanks. Apparently, that is the exact code requirement that I was wondering about.

Here's what is says (from the 2008 National Electrical Code):

"250.148(B) Grounding Continuity. The arrangement of grounding connections shall be such that the disconnection or the removal of a receptacle, luminaire, or other device fed from the box does not interfere with or interrupt the grounding continuity."

You're not misunderstanding.

to daisy chain from outlet to outlet using the double set of screws will lead to trouble down the line. Especially if you have to take an outlet out of the mix. Then you'd be killing everyone down stream also.

On 2/10/2009 11:26 AM RBM spake thus:

Pretty much 6 of one and half a dozen of the other, isn't it?

Besides, by using the clamps, you'd reduce the volume of stuff in the box by cutting down on the number of wire nuts, which take up space.

On 2/10/2009 6:32 PM Steve Barker spake thus:

Why? When you work on the circuit, you need to disconnect the power anyhow. If you need to remove an outlet, you can simply wire-nut the two sets of wires together and everyone's back in business. I don't see the problem.