I recently signed a contract to finish my basement. I was always
assuming that, putting insulation is a standard procedure. I was
talking to my contractor yesterday and he is saying that there is no
need to put insulation in the basement. He said that is the way he
finishes lot of basements. He is tring to convince me that the
basement is already warm and there is no need to put insulation.
I just want to check with you guys, what is the best way to finish the
basement. If i have to put insulation, what type of insulation is
better for basements.
Any ideas would be greatly helpful. I live in Cleveland, OH area.
Basement will be **much** more comfortable if walls are insulated
in localities with cold winters.
I like the foam board insulation because it does not pose moisture
problems. Must be covered with drywall for fire resistance.
As little as 1" foam will make a decided difference, if you can
afford 2", even better.
Whatever you put up, make 100% sure that the basement walls
don't have any moisture leakage.
Agreed. We used to live in Cleveland (Rocky River). Our basement was
finished without insulation and, while the room generally felt warm due
to forced air heat, as you approached the walls it felt cold.
When friends finished their basement, they actually put in 2x4 studs on
the walls and a raised floor to accommodate insulation. Their room was
Along with all the other advice on wall insulation... It is also a good
idea to use Green insulation inbetween the floor joists. I'm talking about
fire proof and sound proof insulation. Not quite as effective for heat,
but does wonders for keeping the sound of noisy furnaces down. Also, it is
good if you intend on putting in a surround sound system in your basement
rec room. You will be able to enjoy that DTS 5.1 system without vibrating
the glasses off the shelves in the upstairs kitchen.
A lot depends on where you live, the construction and how comfortable
you are expecting it to be.
After about four foot from the ground surface, there is not much reason
to add insulation.
It would appear your contractor is taking the cheap way out.
If you signed a contract that did not specify what you want, you may be
stuck. You may be able to talk him into an upgrade (at your expense). You
may want to investigate local building codes and see if that is covered.
You may want to see what licensing and permits are required to see if he is
abiding by them.
Did you get any references for this contractor or check any he provided?
Call the Owens-Corning insulation help line at 1-800-get-pink.
They will tell you that insulation is WELL worth the expense in this case.
Perhaps the question is whether insulation is required by code in a
If your state doesn't require insulation on below-grade walls, they will
Call your building inspector to ask.
Remember one thing, this is your house, and no one should make your
decisions for you. Especially a contractor that is looking for the easy way
out. (My opinion)
Without a doubt, I would insulate as much as is possible, including the
ceiling. Insulations serves two purposes. Heat and cold retention, and sound
Check your contractors references. (should have been done before you signed)
Ask him for names of previous clients.
Foam insulation with foil on both sides can be put against the walls, as
long as you have no moisture issues or cracking foundation. If your
contractors is putting up studs against the wall, why not put some
insulation in, then a vapor barrier, then drywall. Check the local codes,
some required all that I mentioned. And I have been in Cleveland, it gets
Fiberglass rolled with either a kraft face or foil face in the ceilings
between the joists. The money you spend now will be made up in savings from
heating costs in the not to distant future, especially with the cost of any
heating source. (gas, oil, electric, etc.)
Stick to your guns, unfortunately your contractor will want more money, but
in reality insulation is pretty easy to do yourself. Check with a home
center somewhere and ask if they are having any demonstrations about doing
Below ground level, you may not need insuslation. Just partial from
ceiling down to about 4 ft or so. But why bother? I put in R12 batts
on all 4 walls and plugged every open space facing outside wall B4
putting up studs and drywall boards.
Also furnace air ducts(hot and cold return) were installed as well.
David Babcock wrote:
My parents had a home in Iowa that was not insulated. The fireplace when
burning kept it warm. The forced air heat would barely keep the rooms warm,
only about 800 square feet. The concrete walls were finished in a faux brick
finish, which the parents painted like real brick, looked good when they
were done. If your walls are plain concrete I would insulate. Warmer in
winter, cooler in summer. Parents had to run a dehumidifier all of the time
to keep the moisture down, just an fyi
On 13 Dec 2003 06:18:54 -0800, firstname.lastname@example.org (anil chada) wrote:
I'm in Calgary, Canada; I do two or three basements a month. Code
here is moisture barrier or dampproofing extending up the concrete
walls from the floor from the floor to ground level (or four feet
whichever is less). Then R12 insulation below ground level and R20
above ground level. Then a full vapour barrier. Then drywall.
I can't imagine Cleveland not having code for basement development,
and I'd be surprised if it was much different than what it is here.
I would check with the planning/building department to see what
municipal code says. Most code is there for a reason.
Another inexpensive way to improve heating, (assuming you have forced
air registers at ceiling level in the basement, is to drop the cold
air return to floor level. Improves ciculaiton.
I can't comment on your contractor or your relationship.
I am in process of big basement remodeling. I have built 2" X 4" frame 1"
out of basement masonry walls. I installed Kraft-faced R-13 (in my area,
Central NJ, code requires at least R-11) insulation stapled to studs. It has
built-in vapor barrier. As already mentioned you must install some sort of
fire stop to prevent possible fire spreading to floor joist. The easiest way
is to use thermofiber which is a fire resistant insulation and has a green
color. You stuff thermofiber around and between studs nears the first floor
joists. Another possible fire stop is 1/2" sheetrock nailed to upper
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