The number of people receiving some sort of SS benefit hit a record
2.49 people are supporting 1 now.
On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 10:37:12 AM UTC-5, Wade Garrett wrote:
IDK, I see plenty of people on TV even, saying they are collecting SS
disability. One was on The People's Court show. In his twenties, on
SS disability, claims he has ADD. In the last recession the number
of people on it shot way up. Was there suddenly a disability plague?
Or did a lot of people decide they could cash in?
Izzat like my last company? They made so much money during the
dot-com bubble, I was able to retire at age 53 (I was jes a tech), yet
our govt (DARPA) jes hadda hand 'em 75 million dollars, one year. Our
company was NOT even involved with any "Defense" projects. I think the
term is, "corporate welfare". Kinda like that huge "bailout" to our
slimy banking system. And you wanna blame it on some guy that
"stubbed a toe"?
Whatever works, for you, Ed. ;)
Different altogether. I'm not in favor of corporate welfare, nor am I
in favor of scamming SS with alleged disability. Leave that alone and
the real retired people can get what is due.
Just because one slimeball corporation gets a freebie does not make it
OK for others to cheat.
On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 2:00:46 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
I watched Judge Judy yesterday. They had some skunk on there suing a
customer for unpaid bath renovation work. Turns out he had a public
works job, is out on medical disability, is collecting SS disability,
and I think pension too.
She quizzed him first on what kind of work he does, whether he does it
alone, etc. He said alone and he does siding, renovation, etc. Ain't
that nice? He looked about 45 or 50, fit, to me. You'd think they
would go after these shysters. If you can run a home improvement
business, including doing the work yourself, you're certainly capable
of holding down a job instead of collect SS disability. In the last
recession, the number of people collecting like that shot way up.
Sudden mass illness or fraud?
If you engage in what Social Security calls "substantial gainful
activity" (which is what the rest of us call work), by their definition
and regulation, you're not disabled and thus are not entitled to swill
at the public trough.
Don't cling to a mistake just because you spent a lot of time or money
On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 10:10:29 AM UTC-5, Wade Garrett wrote:
Yep, which is why I said you'd think the govt would go after these
frauds. That home renovator, when Judy had him on the grill, said
something about $765 a month or something. I think he was saying
that as long as that's all you make, it's allowed. That's kind of
a second problem. The first problem is people going on the disability
when they really could do some reasonable job. For example, just
because you have a bad back, doesn't mean in all cases that you can't
perform some kind of job.
For younger people, if you can do any kind of work, you're not disabled.
Even if you held a highly skilled position like a nuclear engineer or
brain surgeon and had now had an anxiety disorder that prevented you
from concentrating well enough to do your regular job, you could still
do routine, repetitive, unskilled work. An job example would be a
hand-packer- - the guy who puts the packages of six T-shirts in the
boxes that get shipped to Walmart.
Older workers only have to be able to do jobs comparable to their past
The civil rights movement lost moral authority when it went from
demanding equal rights to demanding equal results.
On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 12:59:20 PM UTC-5, email@example.com wrote:
Maybe you could add that up for us. If you're single, you get an additional
$6K std deduction, $12K for a couple. Meanwhile you lose $4100 for each
personal exemption, which would be -$4100 for single, -$8400 for a couple.
So, for a couple you come out $3600 in your favor in reducing the taxable
INCOME. You'd have to be in the 70% income tax bracket to turn that into a
$2500 cut, but there is no such bracket. If you're in the 28% bracket,
it's more like $1000. I guess it could be via changes to the AMT or
I just know what the consensus of those online calculators tell me for
a couple making around $100k in Florida. Run it yourself. You also
need to add $1300 more onto that standard deduction for one over 65.
On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 12:11:03 PM UTC-5, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
If you know so much about the tax bill and how fair and wonderful it is,
then you should be able to explain it. I looked specifically at what
they changed, not what is already there. Did they change the std deduction
so that you get a larger one if you're over 65? First time I heard that.
The way to discuss tax policy is what the facts are, not out of what
comes out of some dubious online calculator, with no knowledge of how
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