Worst is over now. I was concerned that I might not be able to make
pizza but power has been staying on. On-line paper said they had to
close the refinery about 20 miles away because of outage.
Next door neighbor and family are in Puerto Rico for sons wedding and
we're watching another neighbors house while they are in India. They're
smarter than us.
Their part of India is somewhat tropical.
Puerto Rican climate appears really nice with 80 degree summers and 70
Work brought them both to the US. Indian friend and coworker has been
here over 50 years going to grad school here. PR folks wife got
transferred here from chemical industry there.
Only 16" east of DC. Nearly twice as much on the western side of the city.
This is the typical heat island effect where the storm "splits" and tends to
move north or south of the city. I suspect that's why Micky, living IIRC in
the South Baltimore area, got whacked with 36" of snow. I think he got some
extra that had been headed my way! Thanks, Micky, for taking the hit for
The drifting left some places at way over 36" (like my front porch) and I
couldn't open my storm door. The local juvenile delinquent shoveled me out
(for $50 but it was worth every cent). Only major problem was that the city
plows left a mountain in front of my driveway that they promise to remove
RSN. I was surprised when an complaint email I sent was answered within 20
minutes asking for the address (which I neglected to put in the email).
On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 2:43:29 AM UTC-5, Robert Green wrote:
They come back and clear your EOD? Wow! We are basically on our own. The plow makes 2 passes up my short street. Because of the configuration of my neighborhood, they make a
pass heading west, which puts mounds in front of the houses on the north side of the street.
Then they make a U turn and come back, putting a mound on the south side. If I happen to be
out shoveling or blowing at the time, the driver will sometimes slow and dip his blow into the
mound at my EOD and move what he can.
How long does it take for them to come back if you "complain"? If everyone complained,
how would they get anything done? You can't just fly by when you are clearing EOD piles.
It takes a lot longer to finesse them out of the way without tearing up lawns, taking out
poles, etc. at least where I live.
You can't give me a setup like this and not have me go for it:
There's an awful lot of blowing going on in that sentence. Now I have to
clean my monitor. (-"
(And in answer to your question several county trucks came by, stopped at
the mound and then drove on so I am not sure what's going to happen
eventually. The mountain still blocks my driveway and now my neighbor's
stuck his truck into the big pile making any moving of it impossible!)
Each storm has been different but this is the first one where they dumped a
huge mountain of snow at the end of the driveway. Their policy is to first
clear a single lane and then they come back and try to clear more. This was
the first time I ever had to email them and though I got an email response
almost immediately, nothing's happened.
Usually, since my street starts with an "A" we are the first to be plowed
out, usually way ahead of everyone I know. So I really can't complain. I
actually could get out through my neighbor's plowed out driveway which is
separated from mine by a narrow strip of lawn. I think they realized that
and dropped me to the bottom of the list because there are others who don't
have a similar option and are still snowed in. I have friends whose streets
have YET to see a plow.
It's not like it was in Buffalo where two feet of snow is a minor
inconvenience and people know how to drive in it and to stay home if they
don't have to be out. I left Buffalo after they had 93" of mostly lake
effect snow in a single year. I had to jump out of the 2nd floor window
with plywood boards strapped to my feet so I could shovel the drifts that
had piled up against the storm door which opened outwards. I remember
thinking as I leapt whether the boards would hold me up or I would sink like
a stone into the snow.
Do you really think that is true? Aardvark street gets preference over
The streets department has a plan in place that does not take street
names into consideration. It has much to do with what is on the route,
hospitals, fire house, steep hills, etc. Nor to plow drivers assess the
driveway of individual houses to see if they have an alternative way out.
The areas hardest hit with this last storm are in areas that usually get
moderate snowfall, thus they don't have the equipment to take on 20+
inches and clear it all in hours.
On the news last night a woman from Queens was complaining about the
lack of plowed streets. She said they were last because they were
black. I'm sure Manhattan, a major financial hub for the world, gets
priority over Queens.
I know it's true because I know people in the neighborhood north (B to Z) of
me and that's the way they do it here. They collect the trash in the same
pattern. The streets are aphabetically ordered with the first bank being
one syllable names ("A" street) the next tier get two syllables, "Alpha"
street, the third "Apache" street, etc. It sucks to live on Zinnia St. for
Not sure how you can say that without interviewing them, but I've had more
than one truck stop, look at the mound and move on. That's consistent with
my reporting the problem and them deciding upon exception it's not bad
enough to warrant time moving it. I'll ask these questions of the public
works manager after the cleanup's complete.
I am pretty sure from where they've dumped the snow piles that they DO take
into consideration who they are blocking. They didn't block my neighbors
who were shoveling out the day it snowed and they reported to me that they
asked the driver not to block my driveway. Can't verify that, of course,
but in general the drivers move the snow to the closest out of the way place
they can find. On my street there's not much space to move it to. Since I
wasn't even starting to dig out at that point, I got the prize.
inches and clear it all in hours.
They made that clear on their website - it would take days before "special
problems" like mine would be addressed as there are more important "targets"
to clear completely.
And as you noted, so do public buildings and other priority locations
although most hospitals I know of have their own snow-clearing equipment and
don't depend on contractors or the government because they're not reliable
enough. Some buildings do depend on contractors, like my friend's apartment
complex that was so socked in that the managers said they would pay for a
cab for any resident who was still snowed in and couldn't drive. This kind
of storm strains resources to the max. Luckily we got a completely
unexpected "practice storm" the night before that woke them all up.
Mound of snow ? You want to see a mound of snow?
Here's what they do to the sidewalks in Paoli PA:
The first one is at least six feet high and right at the spot where the
sidewalk meets Russell road.
The second one is the other side of that intersection where they plow
all the crap from the road up on to the sidewalk.
I have been clearing this and the pathways through the park for 10+
years, but I'm getting old and this year I posted an appeal the local
civic association to make it more of a team sport.... and then said "The
Hell With It"....
Granted I have something of a woodie for governments in general....
authority issues maybe... but I think any normal person has to wonder
what kind of mind does stuff like this.
It's not the workers. Workers have supervisors. Supervisors have
managers. Managers make policy, create plans, and monitor compliance
with same.... So it's whatever passes for management locally.
On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 9:52:48 AM UTC-5, Robert Green wrote:
When I was stationed in Alaska (USCG) the 1 & 1.5 story buildings would
get buried on the windward side. Inside, the heat from the building would melt
a "cave", complete with stalagmites and stalagmites made of ice. We'd shine
flashlights though the window and get all sorts of cool (npi) pictures. The
caves lasted all winter and changed as the season went on.
Outside, we would ski off of the roofs with cross country skies (fairly safe)
or with seal skin slippers we'd buy from the Eskimos (not very safe at all).
When you first buy the slippers the hair is still on the bottom, pointed
towards the heel. It eventually wears off down to the skin, but while
the hair is there, they are slicker than snot. You've seen seals sliding
across the snow, so you can imagine how slick the slippers are, especially
on a snow covered hill.
Skiing with them is really dumb and a heck of a lot of fun. As long as you are
bundled up in full arctic gear, the falls don't hurt so much. The beer helps
to cushion the falls also.
Except that I always suspected he fell down a lot more when loaded up with
Percs. He gave up skiing after he fractured his leg so badly the bone was
sticking out. I'll bet those Percs helped on that occasion.
On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 09:41:14 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
Back in the late seventies and eighties we got some storms up around
Stratford Ontario that drifted snow to the level of the roof at the
local Toyota dealer. Some of the guys went to work with their
snowmobiles and parked on the roof.
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