You might want to look at the X-10 cameras (www.x10.com). A neighbor has them
all over the house, including outside the from door. I THINK it is a wireless
system (not sure about that), but he claims that he can take a still shot every
five seconds and store the data onto a CD. One CD holds almost 5 months of
pictures, according to him.
I would suggest supercircuits.com for the equipment. It is more
expensive than other gear, but there is a big difference in quality.
The X-10 cameras I have seen having extremely poor low light
response. Those with built in IR LED's will usually only light out to
10 ft absolute max. I bought a swann baby cam and at 4 ft in darkness
the image is incredibly dim. The complete systems that you see in
stores look impressive, but keep in mind this is being done under high
light levels. I suspect you will want to do your video monitoring
outside and at night. The best camera is one that is inaccessable
(see LED distance limitations)
I'm using supercircuits pc152 and pc23 cameras with 4 and 6 mm lenses
for outside work. A couple of 40 watt outside bulbs gives more than
adequate illumination. If the motion detector lights are tripped, its
like daytime. Home Depot currently has a motion detector light that
is two stage, in that it can run at a low level as an accent light,
but will ramp up to full with motion. The pc23 also have a red LED on
the front, and I have one prominently positioned above the vehicles as
an effective theft/vandalism deterence (also noticed less dog doo doo
in the yard since installing cameras). This camera also provides the
audio feed to the VCR There are also a couple of internal hidden
cameras for the extremely bold. You want outside cameras to be
visible as a deterence, but inside cameras should not be obvious.
I have an 8 channel switcher with an alarm input that will fixate on
whatever camera is sending an alarm via a magnetic or passive IR
sensor. They sell a 4 camera non-alarm switcher for about half as
much. These switchers have 2 outputs, one goes to the VCR and another
goes to a splitter which sends the signal to all TV's in the house,
and flipping to *line-2* will bring up the system so you can check
those "bump in the night" noises without even having to get out of
For recording, I have a dedicated VCR with a set of (14) 8 hr tapes, 2
for each day of the week. One goes in while we are at work and
another does the 10PM to 6AM shift. A new set of tapes is about $25
On 27 Jun 2003 16:12:09 -0700, john firstname.lastname@example.org (jwill)
On 2 Jul 2003 14:10:37 -0700, john email@example.com (jwill)
Prior to my putting it in, a guy was staying with his girlfriend down
the street. Her ex stole the guys bronco, vandalized it and stole his
work tools, and then abandoned the vehicle in front of my house. Sort
of a "see what I just did statement." Would have been even better if
my system had been installed and the guy who thought he was making a
statement ended up in the graybar hotel. All of my neighbors are
aware of my system and know that my peripheral coverage protects them
as well, and if their vehicles are broken into, stolen, or vandalized,
that i will likely have a decent videotape of the perps.
After a lot of internet research, I picked up a camera and a time
stamped/time lapse VCR from Radio Shack mail order. I wanted to deal with a
well-known source in case of problems, etc. The VCR is great, not too
expensive, lots of features. The time stamp is important. I can do
continuous loop. The camera is all-weather, with built-in motion sensor,
audio, IR LED. It's a fair picture, but again I didn't go with the high end.
You're right about the IR LED; it only works a short distance. For the next
camera, I want something that has more nighttime capability.
Overall, I'm happy with the setup. I can also make returns to the store if I
"Mike Hunt" < firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote in message
I'm thinking of setting up some sort of video security/alarm system
in my new place out at the lake. My place is far enough out that
by the time the police respond to an alarm the crooks will be long gone.
I'm thinking that the average crook will think twice about breaking in
if he sees himself on a monitor.
Will your system set off an alarm or does it just record 24/7 ?
By the way, a friend had his place trashed during a break in
I wonder what "nother Bob" would have to say
if that was his place? :)
The crook may just break in and steal the expensive monitoring equipment
you've installed. If the police can't get there in a reasonable time,
he'll have plenty of time to do it. If your lake place is like most,
then the video monitoring equipment will be the most valuable thing
Often the best security for a lake place or cottage is to simply not
leave anything worth stealing in it when you're not there.
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For a remote location, it is best to hide the cameras and recording
equipment so that those who are breaking in aren't even aware they are
being taped. If it is that remote, they will just steal the gear.
There are generally two types of lake cabins, and yours sounds like
one of the nice ones that is well equipped with enough stuff that it
is difficult to remove the gear each time you use it.
Are there other occupied cabins nearby? If so, your best bet is to
augment a cabin alarm system with extra flashing lights and sirens.
Sure, the police may not get there in a hurry, but crooks generally
don't like being in places where their activities are attracting
attention. Security is done in layers, and each layer should either
limit the time a goblin is there or convince the goblin to go
somewhere else. For that matter, a number of motion detector lights
high up on the cabin or on poles will also bring attention to the
trespassers presence. It doesn't matter as much what response there
is to the lights being on as it matters that it makes the goblins feel
uncomfortable being there. I once went to our cabin in Maine in
October for the heck of it, and a guy a mile down the lake who saw the
lights on (which he'd never seen before after labor day) called the
state police to check us out. I for one feel better knowing there is
someone looking out for our property. A good neighborhood watch
program is probably your best bet for a timely response.
We empty our cabin of valuables in the winter and usually leave a
front porch window unlatched. We see evidence that people who are ice
fishing, snowmobiling, or whatever have come in and made a fire. In
the 80 years it has been in the family, no serious theft or vandalism
has ever occurred.
I checked supercircuits and did not see a camera like one at Menards,
by Zeneth and also sold at Security Labs 1 800 774 0284
-wwwspycorder.com . It has i.r. leds, a motion sensor and records
voice. I have had it in for years and it works. Security labs also has
event recorders, or a 30.00 adaptor at menards will turn any vcr into
one. I use an old vcr as a dummy with a security labs sticker so a theif
would steal the dummy vcr and the real one is hidden . also most cheap
alarms can be programed to call several people
I am interested in getting some cameras myself here...however, I have
not used a vcr in about 7 years and have no intention of ever using
that archaic technology again :) .
Can I get something setup to record straight to a PC or DVR?
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