Folks, I couldn't get an answer on of all
places a PARAPSYCHOLOGY usenet,
so I'll pose this serious question here:
IS IT OK to visit places where people have died?
Specifically, where lots of people died suddenly,
not alone in one's bed.
The spot in particular is now part of an office park in
Connecticut, in plain sight, a grassy spot easily accessible
by pedestrians on the sidewalk. There's even a lone
wooden bench next to a tree there, ostensibly for
smokers. Many decades ago, several dozen young folks
died in a terrible fire on that spot. Nothing of that venue
is left now.
Could I place myself or others in danger(spiritual
or otherwise) by setting foot there?
Thanks in advance for any COGENT, considerate
thoughts you may have on this subject.
In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 17 Aug 2015 03:54:44 -0700 (PDT),
A nightclub. I forget the name, but wasn't that fire the origin of fire
safetly laws all across the country? Like the doors opened in, so when
the crowd pushed to get out, the people in front could not open the
doors. Now all public buildings built since then and any that are
designed to hold crowds, in t he US and most of the world have doors
that open out, with panic bars so people won't have to look for the
The Copacabana? No, that was Boston? Connecticut was more recent,
only 20 years ago?, and caused by indoor fireworks, which seems on its
face to be a bad idea, even though they had a permit and stuff like that
had been done quite a few times before. It didn't result in any fire
safety laws except probably banning indoor fireworks.
I don't think so.
Treat the place with respect, in honor of their memories, but merely
visiting shows no disrespect.
I don't think it's reasonable, practical, necessary, or a good idea to
refrain from using, even for mundane uses, places where many have died.
Prime example the Denny's where a bunch of people were shot. OTOH, that
doesnt' mean customers will go there, for whatever reason. But I
certainly don't think every such place has to become a memorial park.
If no one wants to eat in the restaurant, under the old name or a new
one, they can tear it down and build an office building. With a plaque
that commemorates what happened.
I can be sure that I'm considerate, but I can't count on being cogent.
With some people, no one else is cogent.
Re Circus Fire: Correct. Center ring memorialis due east
of Wish Elementary, in its field.
Folks the reason I brought this up is because about 16
years ago I visited such a place of "death before their time"
for many people, and two weeks later the only grandparent
I knew died - albeit peacefully in her sleep - after 92 years.
I had always thought that somehow I had brought
something upon my family by visiting that place. I didn't
even get out of my car - I just sat in the lot in the dark
and looked across, then drove away after 5-10 min.
In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 18 Aug 2015 07:35:40 -0700 (PDT),
You didn't do anything to cause this.
If a 20-year old who wasn't sick died suddenly, even then it wouldn't be
on you, but at least it would be remarkable.
92-year olds can die at any minute. Even someone my age and even in
great health like I am can die at any minute, because things wear out.
It says in Psalm 90, "10 The days of our years are threescore years and
ten, or even by reason of strength fourscore years." so everything about
70 or 80 is "gravy"
If you had been to the circus and 2 *days* later, your grandparent won
the lottery, would you attribute the win to your going to the circus?
On Monday, August 17, 2015 at 6:55:03 AM UTC-4, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
If you determine that people are at risk, you better tell them
to shut down the 911 WTC Memorial, Arizona Memorial at Pearl Harbor,
Nazi concentration camps, Normandy Beaches, etc. I've been to all
of those and I'm still OK.
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 03:54:44 -0700 (PDT), email@example.com
Ford's theater is a well known tourist attraction, now actually a
theater again but the Petersen House across the street is less
ambiguous and it is the next stop on the tour.
Death always draws a crowd
On 8/17/2015 6:54 AM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
From here, I can't see any real danger. Of course,
check for local, present crime rate and so on.
Folks visit death sites, on a regular basis, to
learn, commemorate, and grieve. People go to
Pearl Harbor, Auschwitz, Dachau, and old Indian
battle grounds, and come out okay.
A lot has to do with the attitude you take in. If
you visit Dachau, to learn and take the attitude of
"history must not repeat evil" you should be okay.
Sounds like you might consider meet with a clergyman
in your own area, and discuss your concerns.
In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:52:05 -0400, Retired
Went to a hamfest at Sportsman's Hall on Sunday. Burnt down about 10
years ago. I learned the story this Sunday. Guy broke into building, a
roller rink, and broke into vending machines for the money, then opened
one of the 5-gallon cans of tung oil, that they use to keep the floor
nice (he said) and poured it across the floor.
The volunteer fire engine came quickly, saw the flames through the biggg
window, broke the glass and pumped what water they had (no hydrants in
the country), but instead of putting the fire out, it spread it and the
whole building went down. Fortunately the manager who lived in an
attached apartment was not there that morning. No one was hurt.
Turned out it was done by an escaped mental patient, just like in the
Insurance paid, building rebuilt**, insurance sued the state mental
**Very nice inside, only 4-wheel skates for rent, only 4-wheel skates
for sale. Plus other skating type things and food. Plus lockers,
ski-ball, air hockey, and one other old fashioned game, but only 6
things altogether. Most people skate, plus 3 rows of seats for
watching, plus an electric keyboard and amp. Country life is still
wholesome. Only 7 miles from a suburb but I'll bet none of those
people go there.
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