Apologies for the off-topic discussion. Since everyone here is a
homeowner I figure you would have good experience with this issue.
We are in the market for a new mattress. It seems no mattress lasts
very long and I am afraid it might be an issue of "you get what you pay
for." We're getting to that age where we wake up with aches and pains
and it takes a while for them to go away, if at all. Bad backs, hips,
shoulders, etc. are the order of the day.
What brands and/or models do you recommend? Is there any particular
construction method I should look for? Thanks for your suggestions.
No matter what happens someone will find a way to take it too seriously.
We just went through a 3-year odyssey looking for a decent
bed.. Beds with air cores (SleepNumber), foam cores
(Tempur-pedic), and on and on. All of them ranged from
mediocre to absolute crap.
When it comes to a good night's sleep the money you spend
is not an expense -- it's an investment. Don't scrimp.
The right mattress depends on how you sleep. Side sleepers
need a bit more cushioning compared to back and stomach
sleepers (to accomodate shoulders and hips). We're both
side sleepers, so we tried a Tempur-pedic. But it didn't
provide nearly enough hip support, and within a month we
were both waking up every morning with lower back pain.
Finally we returned to a traditional coil spring mattress (entry
level Stearns & Foster, "Bourdon Firm" model, $630 at
Sears for queen size) and we've been sleeping like babies
ever since. It's 14" thick so you might need to buy new
We just moved to Florida last year from Pennsylvania. when we got here -
we bought three new beds and mattresses. Two queens and a king
I always heard that 100% pure latex mattresses last forever and are very
supportive. Do a google search on pure latex foam mattresses - read
We bought them from this firm -
They sold us 3 full beds - rails - box spring - mattresses. Two queens
and a king. Total price $1700 delivered to the house. After a year I can
tell you it was a great purchase.
Do not let anyone sell you on memory foam or space foam or anything like
that. 100% pure latex foam has many great properties. It is
hypoallergenic - it cools you in summer and warms you in winter. It
resists dust mite.
We have been sleeping on them for a year and love them. They are
supposed to last 20 years too. Beware - pure latex foam is very heavy.
It also is not stiff - the mattress will not stand up vertical by itself.
We bought them because we were staying in a five star hotel in Europe
and absolutely loved that mattress there - so we went looking for them.
100% pure latex foam rubber mattresses. Any brand will do if it is 100%
pure latex foam. Caution - watch out for "race track" foam mattresses -
they wrap polyurethane foam around the edge.
Latex is great for back and stomach sleepers. We tried one
(pure latex, Talalay process) and it was like trying to sleep
on a marshmallow. Some people like that, we hated it, not
to mention the talcum powdery smell that drove us nuts
after a few weeks.
Dear Rick -
I am a side sleeper. You can buy latex foam at any firmness you want.
Maybe they make them different now. We do not notice any talcum powder
smell. I guess there are lots of differences even in 100% latex foam
mattresses. We love ours - and have had lots of guests in our new
Florida home in the last year. They all leave saying their next mattress
will be a 100% latex foam one. My sister - who has a broken back - with
two 18 inch rods along her spine (try sleeping with that) went back home
to Delaware and immediately ordered one.
I am retired - I do not sell anything - I am just telling you of my
experience - just like you are :-) I hope I can help.
Why did you need queen and king sizes? Personally I sleep on one side
of a full size and in the morning the other side looks untouched. I've
never understood why people need such huge widths. OTOH even though
I'm not tall (5'10") I would like another foot in length and
especially longer comforters and sheets. Although I start sleeping on
my side I almost always wake on my back frequently with the covers
over my head.
Couldn't care less about dust mites and I very much doubt that any
mattress can cool or warm you unless it has some sort of heating
element built in.
Contrary to what some must believe the human spine is not flat and the
weight of the human body is unevenly distributed over its length. I
have difficulty understanding how there can be a "One size fits all"
approach to mattresses. The first thing the salesman should ask is,
"How much do you weigh?" and only then could he direct you to the
right type of mattress. I think that with the fattening of America the
mfgs must be designing with the 300lbs monster in mind and this is the
reason I find most to be far too hard. If there's even a slight indent
for my hips, the small of my back won't even touch the bed.
I did however find a solution: that memory foam you dislike. A topper
of three inches on a normal rock-solid mattress provides good support
all over. the only problem is that I'm now so comfortable I can't get
up in the morning <g>.
That web site you cited is pretty poor but I'll check around elsewhere
for the "pure latex" you recommend.
I agree completely. Most positive reviews I've seen for
foam mattresses have been from people who are either
fat (often downright obese), or who have one physical
ailment or another (fibromyalgia etc).
We were sold on it for other reasons, and that's what we
tried first when we started our search for a new bed. We
went through nine different foam variations, but none of
them provided adequate hip support -- and we're not fat
people (6' 170# and 5'11" 160#).
Among all the non-coil spring solutions we tried, that was
the best. Although in our case our original mattress was
old and worn out so we didn't get proper support.
Wherever you buy one, make sure there's a return policy ;-)
On Sun, 01 May 2005 04:15:38 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@NotRealISP.edu
If you sleep alone, your logic works. It doesn't for people who share
The Select Comfort mattress another poster suggested actually does
warm you because of the vinyl or whatever the material is that the
inflatable mattress is made from, very similar to waterbeds. Nice
feature in the winter, but not always so great in the summer. By the
way, I agree with the Select Comfort recommendation; we each can
control the firmness of our side, and I sleep great now that I've
retired my excellent, expensive, but expired Serta Perfect Sleeper
mattress (had that for 12 years, then started getting aches and
We (me, our dog emily and spouse) really like the 2 inch memory foan
on top of our firm king mattress. Actually the memory foam is one
year old and the mattress is 22 years old. She liked it so much she
bought a memory foam pillow and loves it too.
The instructions warn you about the odor. The smell went away after
a couple of days.
It might not sound like it but we are particular about our mattress.
Please don't make me sleep on a water bed again.
Good luck on your mattress search. The web site I sent to you was not an
"educational" web site - it was simply the place I bought mine. They
have a store here in Tallahassee - so I went to them and asked for a
bid. We went with them because they gave us a great bid and gave us a
written guarantee which included that we could bring anything back
within 30 days for a full refund.
We are completely satisfied with our 100% pure latex foam mattresses.
The frames that came with them were just standard rails. The "so-called"
box springs are simple soft plywood boxes that are covered with the same
fabric as the mattresses. Latex foam mattresses can be used on platform
beds that are just a plywood platform.
We had seen places that priced pure latex foam mattresses up to $3000
each! So when a place offered us three full beds - 2 queens and a king -
for $1700 total - with a money back guaranteed - less than 3 miles from
our home - we took the chance.
I am 6 feet - weigh 200 pounds. Wife is 5-4 - weighs 130. We like the
king size bed very much. We often have "big" guests and they are happy
with the extra room.
Studies show that pure latex foam is a heat sink. They absorb heat and
moisture from the body - and then give it off. In the winter - they
insulate the body. Don't ask me how - they just work.
I am not a salesmen - just a retired guy with a happy purchase. :-)
Who give a damn how you sleep? I'm concerned about how I sleep and no one
else. My goal is not to emulate you, but to have a restfull night sleep in
the same bed as my wife. Just because you don't understand something does
not mean the need does not exist.
Are you sure the covers are over your head? Sounds more like your head is
up your ass. I could never understand why anyone would wnat a longer bed and
I'm 6' tall.
But a mattress of some materials can give the feeling of additinal warmth
becuase of the insulating qualities.
Weight is a factor, but moreso is personal prefference.
It is a personal thing. I like a pillow top as it is a bit smoother feeling
and soft even on a fir mattress. King size is the way to go also. Plenty
of room for two if you want to spread out. Any of the major brands will
have something for you, avoid anything cheap. It is also difficult to
compare models as different stores carry the same mattress under a different
model mane just so you cannot easily comparison shop.
And the models go out of style. Mine is called "Extra Canterwood
Limited," if you can believe that.
I second the pillow top-firm combination. And you might want to look
for one that is "open-flame resistant" (which you'll get if you buy
one in California anyway).
(BTW, if you decide on a Serta, the website has a coupon for $50 off).
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!
When it comes to things that hurt in the am, backs are usually at the
head of the list. Saggy mattresses are rough on backs, even good ones,
because they cause strain on muscles and ligaments. A chunk of plywood
between mattress and box spring can make a great difference, even with
cheap mattresses. We sleep on futon. Very firm, but padded surface.
Love it. I have always preferred very firm mattresses. Have no back
problems but back hurts if I sleep on saggy mattress.
I'll second the recommendation on the Stearns - Foster.
Mine is over ten years old & still like new.
My father has one that is 25-30 years old & he still swears it's the
best quality innerspring available.
I also have a Stearns & Foster. It's the best quality mattress I've owned. I
also second the motion on a king size. But I guess that depends on how you
like to sleep. Also, make sure you really lay on the mattress for awhile in
the store, to really get the feel of it. There's not much worse than
plunking down hundreds if not thousands of dollars on a bed and then not
On a different note. What are opinions on buying the box spring that goes
with the mattress vs. getting a frame that just takes a mattress? I always
wondered if it's really necessary. Of course the sales people tell you you
should, but it increases the price considerably.
Good Luck with your bed search,
My sister-in-laws have some really crappy mattresses for the guests.
I now drag the mattress into the living room and place them directly
on the floor and NOW get a good nights sleep. Sure, it pi**es them
off, but I don't care.
What I'm saying is that crappy box springs can ruin a good mattress.
We went for the Select Comfort (air) mattress and love it because you
can adjust the firmness/softness as you are laying on it. It is also
made of separate replaceable parts so it should be possible to jujst buy
replacement parts, although we have had it for many years with no
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