Similar forecast for here in San Antonio. Sleet and/or snow is not
unheard of here, but I don't recall ever having either in the first few
days of Dec. I haven't heard of any closings, late openings, etc yet.
We'll see. Larry
It's not so much that the snow is cold or dry, but what the ambient
temperatures do when and after it snows. In many places in Montana, when it
snows it's 10-20 degrees outside (or colder - much colder), and never rises
above 25. The snow packs down but doesn't turn into an ice sheet. In
Portland, it's sometimes 30-35 degrees when it snows, and the snow partially
melts. Then nighfall comes and it turns to ice. Then the next day the sun
comes out, temp rises and the top of the ice pack melts and you have honest
to goodness black ice. You can't drive on that stuff, not even with chains.
Fortunately, it doesn't last long. Which is more or less what you just said
What is really fun in Portland is when we get ice storms. It's 20-25 degress
on the valley floor, and it rains because the clouds are warmer. No snow,
but actual rain and sleet that turns into sheet ice when it hits. Yeah, real
fun - not only do they shut the roads, but people get trapped on the hills
because they can't drive up or down the roads until it melts.
I much prefer the cold dry 'styrofoam' snow. If it is only an inch or
two, I can skip the shovel and snow blower, and clear the driveway with
the leaf blower in a few minutes. I hate the heavy wet crap. (Sloped
driveway, so driving out over anything white is not an option, if I want
to get back in that evening...)
Here we get runs on toilet paper, bread and milk. And that's if you can
even park in the grocery store's lot! Then we go through a round of
"schools will open an hour late", "schools will open two hours late",
oops "schools are closed". Followed by several days of controversy on
whether or not the schools should have been closed, or opened late or
closed early. And the ever present reporter standing right on the edge
of a road saying "see how the cars are sliding". Dang, I remember really
liking snow as a kid. I wouldn't mind it now if it would have the
decency to do it on a weekend, LOL.
I liked the TV station that set up a camera at the top of a downtown hill and
filmed car after car sliding down the hill and crashing into a parked car at the
hill bottom. They could have waved their arms and told drivers what would
happen, but no - they wanted the video.
WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!
Latest update from the National Weather Service
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN HOUSTON/GALVESTON HAS ISSUED A
WINTER STORM WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM FRIDAY MORNING
THROUGH FRIDAY EVENING.
SNOW AMOUNTS WILL VARY GREATLY
DEPENDING ON WHEN THE RAIN CHANGES OVER TO SNOW. PRELIMINARY
ESTIMATES SHOW SNOW TOTALS OF 1 TO 2 INCHES ACROSS THE AREA WITH
SOME ISOLATED SNOW TOTALS APPROACHING 5 INCHES. MOST OF THE SNOW
ACCUMULATIONS WILL BE ON GRASSY AND ELEVATED SURFACES. THIS
SITUATION IS STILL IN FLUX AND FORECASTS COULD CHANGE RADICALLY BY
We should have paid attention!
"However widely the weather varies from place to place and time to time,
when meteorologists take an average of temperatures around the globe they
find that the atmosphere has been growing gradually cooler for the past
three decades. The trend shows no indication of reversing. Climatological
Cassandras are becoming increasingly apprehensive, for the weather
aberrations they are studying may be the harbinger of another ice age." --
Personally I'm terrified of "Global Tepidness". We have to do something
now! We must dump ice in the Central Pacific Ocean and blast The Poles,
(not the Northern European ones) with giant flame throwers!
Remember the prediction after Katrina that global warming would result in
more and more hurricanes?
This past season, not one hurricane hit the U.S.
There are a couple of agendas intersecting here. The first is the climate
academics who want more money for more research, so it's in their interest
to keep finding evidence of their hypothesis. The second agenda being
promoted is that of the Luddites who want to run the planet off of sunbeams.
This latter group enable the climatologists because impending doom
strengthens their arguments. You can test this by noting the absolute
absence of treating the symptom rather than the assumed disease. For
example, it's been demonstrated that seeding the atmosphere with relatively
small amounts of something (I think it was Hydrogen sulfide) will drop
temperatures dramatically for an extended period.
As to your point about a clean enviornment - all agree. The facts are,
however, that in spite of energy usage doubling in the U.S. in recent
decades, the air is cleaner than it's been since about 1880.
Everybody's ragging on CO2 as the clandestine culprit. CO2 comprises
three-tenths of one percent of the atmosphere. If the atmosphere could be
represented by the area of a football field, the amount of space taken up by
CO2 is roughly equivalent to the space taken by the prostrate body of an
official stabbed six times because of three consecutive bad calls against
the home team and the increase in CO2 is roughly equivalent to the blood
stain on the Astroturf as the official bleeds out.
There is, in addition, a global feedback mechanism. As the percentage of CO2
increases, so does plant life, which, in turn, produces Oxygen.
As to your last point, "misconception getting the job done," there is the
cost to consider. It ain't cheap. Some estimates come in as high as equal to
the GDP of the United States.
Glad you take the issue seriously.
I'm not sure who "Everybody" is. Lately I've heard more counter-claims than
people on-board with global warming. I'm more for overall good stewardship
of the planet.
I've always been skeptical about GW, but, I was just in Rome, and there were
places it was hard to breath w/o getting nauseous. The cigarettes didn't
help. I didn't check, but I seriously doubt they have vehicle air-quality
inspections. Something simple like that can make a huge difference in urban
areas. Albuquerque and Austin both have air-quality programs and it helps
when you have diminished lung capacity. Abq. was really bad because of "the
box" the balloonist like to talk about.
Another scandal. The alphabet networks have devoted ZERO air time to the
East Anglia document dump in the, what, 18 days its been out there. The New
York Times and the Washington Post first mentioned the contremps just
yesterday for the first time.
When I said "Everybody's ragging on CO2..." What I should have said is "All
the ragging is on CO2..." My theory is CO2 is considered the culprit because
it's the product of energy generation. Maybe 95% of the energy generated in
the U.S. produces CO2 (coal and gas). If CO2 is convicted, the Luddites will
get their way. We'll all go back to a life that was cruel, brutal, and
I, too, have been to Rome. There is a department within the city government
that prowls around the city routinely steam-cleaning the mung off of the
statues and art work (i.e., columns and facades). I think it's because the
city's 3 million residents drive 6 million cars and they're all two-cylinder
putt-putts. But clean air is a completely separate problem from global
warming. There is, theoretically, some overlap - If CO2 is the culprit, you
can have global warming AND clean air. Or, back during the Little Ice Age,
the air was double dirty as Londoners burnt coal and peat.
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