So, in case you didn't know, groups of aboriginal women across Canada
are holding protests and gatherings to draw attention to the situation
here in Canada. That is, that a disproportionate number of women that
are missing or known to have suffered a violent death are aboriginal
Apparantly, only 4.3 percent of the women in Canada are aboriginal, but
over 16 percent of the women that are missing or known to have been
killed and suffering a violent death are aboriginal. The aboriginal
women are claiming that the police forces in Canada (like the RCMP, the
Ontario Provincial Police and local city police forces) aren't doing
enough to solve the cases of missing or killed aboriginal women.
Let me see if I can shed some light on it...
There are few industries on the native reserves, so aboriginal women
wanting to make a life for themselves migrate to the cities from those
reserves. On the reserve, the teacher(s) teach up to Grade 12, but the
reality of the situation is that aboriginal students graduating from
Grade 12 on a reserve are functionally illiterate. A big part of the
reason for that is that unlike other communities, on a native reserve
the chief and tribal council have the final say in all matters. So, if
little Jimmy Yellowquill can't understand how to solve quadratic
equations, and is likely to flunk Grade 7 math, his parents go and talk
to the Chief, and the Chief talks to the teacher, and the teacher
realizes that littly Jimmy Yellowquill is never going to have to solve a
quadratic equation working at any of the few businesses there are on
that reserve. So, little Jimmy Yellowquill gets pushed through each
grade because the band council and the teachers realize that there are
no jobs that little Jimmy Yellowquill would ever apply for that would
require he know anything more than grade 4 arithmetic to do. So, the
guys and girls graduating from the schools on reservations really don't
have any work related skills to speak of and are completely unprepared
for University (unless of course, they take a program called "Native
Studies" where there is no such thing as "pass" and "fail"; only various
levels of "pass". If the girls moving to the cities can't make ends
meet working for minimum wage at the golden arches, they put on a sexy
outfit and loiter in front of the hotels on Winnipeg's main drag. They
get into cars with men they don't know from Adam, and that stranger
drives them out somewhere where they don't even know where they are, let
alone anyone else. The girl does this stranger a favour, which usually
involves sex, and then she demands a substantial amount of money from
I dunno. Beats me. Why would that lifestyle result in a
disproportionate number of aboriginal women being killed?
Correct. But, Aboriginals don't like to be called "Indians". Most of
them have never even been to India and can't speak the language. They
much prefer to be called "Aboriginal", "Native" or "First Nations".
Truth be told, "Indians" are some of the friendliest and honest people
you'll meet. It's just that the ones that move to the cities often get
involved with drug and alcohol abuse, and that leads to broken homes and
wife beating and sexual abuse and all the wonderful things that
alcoholism leads to. And it's that kind of "Indian" that people are
prejudice against. And, of course, there's a backlash against
alcoholism amongst the Indians themselves. I know native women that
won't visit their families because the first thing they do when they all
get together is drink, and the women just can't deal with the drama that
often ensues. So, you have people within the native community that
don't drink and don't want to have anything to do with people that do.
It's a problem they all deal with, each in their own way.
Lots of alcohol, dressed like hookers, and get in
the car with strangers. And end up dead. I wonder
if anyone else sees a connection?
It sounds like a very high risk way to behave. I'd
suggest they find a different way to balance the
budget. My guess is that if these people cut back
on vice items, eating out, and cable TV, they might
balance the budget.
There's a very simple answer: Because they are poor.
<<The poor and the unemployed are twice as likely to become victims of
violent crime and nearly three times more likely to suffer emotional damage
as a result of being attacked, according to research published today.
The study by the Institute of Public Policy Research shows that people
living in the most deprived neighbourhoods are more than twice as likely to
be mugged and feel "very worried" about being physically attacked as those
who live in the most affluent neighbourhoods.
The research, Crimeshare: the unequal impact of crime, shows that almost
half a million victims of violent crime started to avoid certain places,
used public transport less, and felt unable to take on paid or volunteer
work if it involved coming home after dark. About 32,000 people change jobs
every year and 180,000 move home as a direct result of being attacked. More
than 850,000 people say they lost earnings as a result of becoming a victim
of violent crime.>> Source:
Same is true in most struggling neighborhoods. I remember when the
"riots" broke out here in LA in the 90's - the first places to burn were
the liquor stores. The news media tried to make it look like it was an
Afr-Am vs Korean conflict, but the truth is that those who lived near
the liquor stores wanted liquor stores out of their communities.
Some exceptions, of course, but this was pretty much universal at that
The same is true for a large percentage of grade-12 graduates from the
U.S. public school systems. Most U.S. public school systems are
controlled by teacher unions and run primarily for the financial
benefit of 1) teacher administrators, 2) teachers. The students are a
very distant 3rd.
Web based forums are like subscribing to 10 different newspapers
and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one.
On Saturday, May 17, 2014 3:19:24 AM UTC-4, CRNG wrote:
That's what I was thinking when I was reading it too.
It doesn't take a tribal chief here to have kids come out
of school without being able to do basic reading, writing
As to the allegation that the police aren't doing enough
to find there missing people or solve homicide cases, that could
be true. But there are other factors that can come into play.
For example here in the USA, it's often much harder for
police to solve murders in black neighborhoods because
few people will talk to and cooperate with the police.
By the street code, you're a rat if you do that, plus
with gangs, etc, someone may kill you. If the victims
have a transient lifestyle, etc, that can make it much
harder to solve than a more typical case. So, while on the
surface, because some of these go unsolved, etc, people
may assume that the police aren't doing anything, you'd
have to look at the particular cases and do some comparison
to reach valid conclusions.
The news item concerned Canada where the constitution (since
1982) guarantees "aboriginal rights" to Indians, Innu (Eskimos) and
Metis (although it offers no rules or guidelines to decide who is
eligible for aboriginal rights.) Thus "aboriginal" has a legal
function in Canada that it does not in the USA, Britain, etc.
(E.g. aboriginals convicted of crimes may petition for lighter
sentences than other people, because of historical unfairness
to their ancestors.)
--Not for the Canadian case, where RCMP figures published May 16
report solution of 88 per cent of murders of aboriginal people and
89 per cent of murders of nonaboriginal people (or 89 and 88
per cent, I forget which.) The murder rate in Canada is about
17 per million people per year (554 homicides in 2010, the
record low figure.)
Canada has a lot of problems with our native population in a variety of
In Canada, over 80 percent of the men in prisons are native. And, this
fact alone has been held up as proof beyond a reasonable doubt that the
Canadian judicial system is prejudice against natives. But, the correct
explanation here is that natives are often just plain dumb, and make
just plain dumb mistakes in the commission of their crimes, thereby
making it easy for the police to find and convict the perpetrators.
For example, every fall or early winter you hear a news report on
Winnipeg radio that a native man has been convicted of armed robbery
because he used a knife to hold up a liquor commission. Then they
explain that the Winnipeg police service was able to find the
perpetrator by tracking the foot prints in the freshly fallen snow back
to the perpetrator's place of residence. And, when police ask the man
if he had just robbed a liquor store with a knife, the perpetrator
answered in the affirmative.
Often native men will commit crimes when they're drunk. A native man
might buy a case of 24 beer at a local hotel beer vendor and bring it
home to drink. Well, after him and his friends each have a half dozen
beer in them, they want to keep drinking but they don't have any money.
So, they decide to lay in wait outside the local beer vendor and attack
the next person that comes out with beer. Well, this native has been
buying beer at that vendor for years, and the person working cash at
that vendor might not know his name, but knows that he often comes to
that hotel vendor to buy beer. The guy who gets beat up for his beer
wants to press charges and the police give the guy working cash at the
hotel vendor a case number and phone number to call the next time he
sees that native. The next time that native comes in, the guy working
cash makes a phone call and the police are there in a few minutes to
arrest the native. A thinking person would not commit a crime at a
place where he frequents because people can easily recognize him.
Ya see, dumb people make dumb mistakes and that makes it easier for the
police to solve dumb crimes. That's why there are so many natives in
Yep. That's how RCMP cop Monty Robinson got off with no jail time after
killing motorcyclist Orion Hutchinson with his car under /highly-
suspicious/ circumstances involving large amounts of alcohol (drunken
Indian, anyone?). No white would ever have got away with what he did.
Robinson was also one of the cops involved in killing Robert Dziekanski in
the Toronto airport, also under highly-suspicious circumstances. He got off
that one, too.
You're right. We have nowhere near as many problems as you (the USA)
does. Not even 10% of the problems.
You are so screwed over health care and latin-american migrants and how
your politicians are getting ulcers trying to figure out what to do with
them, meanwhile they rape and rob their way through your society (the
latinos - but I suppose the same could be said of your politicians too).
These indians are not Canadians, so like other native indians in North
America, they live off their casinos money logging and mineral rights
and gov't handouts and their band leaders squander and pilfer the money
leaving the rest of their tribe destitute and it's politically incorrect
for us the white people to even point that out let alone do something
about it except throw more of our tax money at them.
This issue with the missing squaws - what you don't hear is that
nobody's asking why the indian men are allowing their women to go
missing and get killed - unless it's them doing most of it.
wow, the word, aboriginal, brings to mind the images of a "Walkabout"
Hey, they just got here soomer, came from someplace, just earlier, right?
I've never heard the term, but really like the name, First Nations. High
ranking, has dignity. Yeah, that's a good name. Does that mean my name is,
invader, intruder, thief, what?
Robert: "Aboriginal" simply means the people who are native to a
certain land. The "Aboriginees" of Australia are native to Australia
just as the First Nations peoples are aboriginal to Canada and the USA.
No, there's a lot of controversy over where the earliest people to come
to North America actually came from. The most commonly accepted belief
is that people crossed from North East Russia and China across a land
bridge that connected north eastern Asia and Alaska during the last ice
age. But, there is evidence to suggest that North America was
originally settled by people that came from what is now Spain and
Portugal who crossed the Atlantic by following the edge of an ice sheet
that spanned the entire Atlantic Ocean during the last ice age. It's
very likely that North America was populated by different people who
came from different places on the Earth, but who didn't make contact
with each other for centuries after coming here. The reasoning behind
that is that the people that settled in South America seem to have a
form of writing which is seen carved all over their holy sites, whereas
the plains Indians and Arctic peoples (starting with the Arctic culture
known as the "Dorset culture", had no form of writing at all. Writing
is something that a culture never loses because important events in the
culture's history need to be recorded for posterity. For one group of
natives to have writing and another group not to have it suggests they
came to North America from different places and at different times.
Ever seen the film of the same name? Intriguing and the beginning, for me,
of a long term "admiration" for Jenny Agutter. Her getting buck naked
frequently in films has *nothing* to do with my appreciation of her, I
assure my wife. Nothing at all. The first time I saw her in all her
"Garden of Eden" splendor was in the SciFi flick "Logan's Run." Now that
was some gratutitous film nudity. I know I was grateful!
Everybody comes from somewhere. (-: It's where you end up that's important.
"Better Armed" would probably be the most descriptive.
I always wonder what the Caananites thought when they were told that God
promised *their* land of milk and honey to the Jews.
"But this is *our* land!" the Caananites said.
"Here, look at this Torah scroll, it says it right here, "This land is our
land, promised by Jehovah!"
"I don't see it . . ."
"Look more closely. Down there. At the very bottom." Bonk! "Unload the
caravan, we're home!"
And thus it has been ever since. Just look at all the territorial conflicts
going on in the South China Sea. Or the Ukraine and Crimea. Or the
Falkland Islands, etc. Or Africa. Or Tibet. The one enduring rule seems
to be the land belongs to whomever can grab it and hold it.
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