Yeah, I too am in NYC and I never understand the problems one sees on
TV. Do they shut down the schools in other states on election day? Do
they pay the poll workers too? (There always seems to be a huge
over-manning.) I wonder what the turnout is? In my district, if he
were the democratic nominee we would elect Osama bin Laden. Maybe most
people don't vote here?
It's indeed a mystery.
As a non-citizen, I don't have a vote here (I'm one of the taxed but
unrepresented), but I recall the voting system in Australia, where
registration and voting was compulsory (of course one could drop in a
blank paper or scrawl obscenities on it -- the only thing really
compulsory was showing up).
Paper ballot, with preferential voting: number candidates in order of
One could vote at any "precinct" in one's own "electoral district" (to
use the US terms). Even voting outside one's electoral district was not
difficult, although I never did it: I think the supervisor may have had
blank ballot forms on which s/he wrote the names of the candidates for
that other electoral district.
I don't recall ever having to wait more than a few minutes to vote.
No results were announced until the polls had closed everywhere.
The result of the election was usually clear before the night was out.
I do not understand the US system -- either its logic or its implementation.
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:32:31 -0500, "Percival P. Cassidy"
In the case of president voting is just a beauty contest anyway. The
electoral college actually elects the president. all we do with our
vote is advise the state legislators about which electors they choose
to send. There is often at least one faithless elector that goes rogue
and doesn't vote for the guy he was selected for and there is no real
legal way to force any of them to.
The reality is the constitution does not even require that the state
legislators look at the popular vote at all. That is all in state law.
We were very close to seeing that in action in Florida in 2000. The
legislature could have refused to honor the recount, even if the
SCOTUS had not stopped it. There is still an argument about whether
the SCOTUS even had jurisdiction. The showdown could have easily been
between the Fl courts and the legislature.
The reality is that if it was not resolved one way or the other by Jan
6, the House would have selected the president and the Senate would
have selected the VP. We could have ended up with Bush/Lieberman.
Depends on the state. 24 of them have laws that say who they must
vote for with penalties for not doing so, In 1952, the constitutionality
of state pledge laws was brought before the Supreme Court in Ray v.
Blair, 343 U.S. 214 (1952). The Court ruled in favor of state laws
requiring electors to pledge to vote for the winning candidate, as well
as removing electors who refuse to pledge.
That would probably depend on the specific method to choose electors
used by the state and that state's election laws. Those appointed by the
party leadership could probably be fair easily removed and replaced if
the state laws allowed such things (and I don't even want to paw through
50 states worth of election law to see). Those chosen by the the party's
convention might be a little dicier.
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