On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:09:49 -0400, email@example.com wrote:
Hey Bubba, your response to Ed's "Show us some verifiable facts"
didn't include any facts. Show us some facts to support your "voter
suppression techniques" by the Republicans. Show us some examples of
what you mean by your statement of "at times like this" and back that
up with facts about Republicans lying.
It shouldn't be that difficult if what you say is true, should it?
On 8/29/2013 1:21 AM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Which isn't unusual, because all over the country people are taking
advantage of opportunities to cast their ballots in advance. Around
here, local politicians routinely include instructions on how to
obtain an absentee ballot with their campaign literature, as well as
reminding people that it is now legal to cast a ballot at your polling
place within a window of time prior to Election Day.
Everyone's interested in making it easier to for citizens to perform
their Constitutional right to vote - except Republicans. They're
against it. They pretend there's a problem with fraud, even though
time and again such cases have been shown to be so few and far between
as to be statistically insignificant. Republicans are fully aware they
cannot win elections in most locations when the majority of eligible
voters are allowed to vote. So their strategy is to make it as
difficult as possible for as many citizens as possible to exercise
their Constitutional right to cast a ballot. Once again, Republicans
prove they hate America, they hate the Constitution, and they
especially fear and hate their fellow citizens.
Yep, people are getting used to being able to vote in advance, so more
of them are doing it.
I call bullshit on that claim. Without a court order (which requires
evidence to support the suspicion of wrongdoing before a judge will
sign off on it), there's no way to obtain information that specific.
The best they might be able to get without a court order is a list of
IP addresses - and those are usually not linked to a specific
computer. If they are able to document their allegation that only 3
pcs are linked to the requests, odds are they are computers at the
local library or city hall, where people filled out online requests to
have absentee ballots mailed to their home.
It's one hell of a huge leap to assume anything criminal in those very
ordinary, very routine circumstances.
Sounds like he's also facing the real possibility of losing this
election, which would explain his motivation.
On Thursday, August 29, 2013 11:54:18 AM UTC-4, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
To date, 46 states have prosecuted or convicted cases of voter fraud.
• More than 24 million voter registrations are invalid, yet remain
on the rolls nation-wide.
There are over 1.8 million dead voters still eligible on the rolls across t
• More than 2.75 million Americans are registered to vote in more t
han one state.
• True The Vote recently found 99 cases of potential felony interst
ate voter fraud.
• Maryland affiliates of True The Vote uncovered cases of people re
gistering and voting after their respective deaths.
• This year, True The Vote uncovered more than 348,000 dead people
on the rolls in 27 states. ◦ California: 49,000
◦ Florida: 30,000
◦ Texas: 28,500
◦ Michigan: 25,000
◦ Illinois: 24,000
•12 Indiana counties have more registered voters than residents.
• The Ohio Secretary of State admitted that multiple Ohio counties
have more registered voters than residents.
• Federal records showed 160 counties in 19 states have over 100 pe
rcent voter registration.
• The Florida New Majority Education Fund, Democratic Party of Flor
ida and the National Council of La Raza are currently under investigation f
or alleged voter registration fraud.
Republicans are fully aware they
The fact that there are 30 Republican governors and Republicans
control most of the state legislatures prove that's not true.
So their strategy is to make it as
Which of course is a lie. In every election I've ever seen
both parties have had plenty of people to assist people who
want to vote with being able to do so. They'll even drive
you to the polls on election day.
Once again, Republicans
I never see Republicans going around apologizing for America.
That's left up to the Democrats, like Obama with his worldwide
apology tour. It's worked well too. Look at all the progress
and respect we have now. I mean kissing Putin's ass, for example,
has worked wonders.
It's possible, but it's certainly worthy of investigation.
I wouldn't assume anything. But I would say something doesn't smell
right when you already have almost as many applications for an absentee
ballot as there were total votes cast in the last election in one
district. And it's worthy of investigation.
when someone dies, do you think the first thing the friends or family
think is "let's go to the county clerk and tell them", not to mention
that without a proper death certificate AND a legal document stating
you are the legal representative of the estate, it's quite difficult to
do such things
� More than 2.75 million Americans are registered
yet ask yourself how many states have cancelled early voting
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:09:53 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
That certainly opens up a lot of room for abuse doesn't it?
Best case, the family continues to vote the dead guy. Worst case, some
smart computer guy looks for dead people en masse and requests
absentee ballots for them.
If the election supervisor has removed them from the rolls, the only
thing that happens is the bad guy doesn't get that ballot.
In something like a councilman seat like this, a couple hundred votes
can easily swing the race.
best case is nothing happens, worst case is some abuses the system...of
course with the proper infusion of money it shouldn't be all that hard
for the County Clerk, Social Security or some other gov't agency to
cross-check voter rolls, but you know private enterprise would do that
better, wouldn't they?
The Social Security admin mantains a 'death list' I work with hospice and
many businesses use the list to build a contact list for cold calling.
People travel rfor wok, school etc.. In one texas town there are something
on the order of 30K more registered voters (mostly republican) than there
were residents in the last censes (under the law the censes counts where
you are on at the time not where you claim to live)
For the most part these are retired folk who full time in RVs and maintain
their legal residence for tax reasons in Liberty TX. The issue has been to
the USSC and judged legal. (look it up)
Why? To my understanding there is one state where all vote by mail. Due to
conflicts and long lines (Pubs seem to be trying to make those longer) it's
a matter of being less of a hassle.
On 08-30-2013 00:33, NotMe wrote:
> The Social Security admin mantains a 'death list' I work with
> hospice and many businesses use the list to build a contact list
> for cold calling.
I am having difficulty figuring out how the SSDI can be a good source of
contacts for cold-calling. Unless you want to be really sure they are cold.
> Why? To my understanding there is one state where all vote by mail.
> Due to conflicts and long lines (Pubs seem to be trying to make those
> longer) it's a matter of being less of a hassle.
Australians vote by mail--and get fined if they don't.
If the IP comes back to McDonalds or the library, I agree. If it comes
back to a lobby group, charges are in order.
BTW this is the same TV station that tracked down a number of aliens
who voted and nothing came of that, in spite of actually getting them
to admit on camera that they voted illegally.
Now you really threw a curveball. Let those people who believe Palin &
Mitt got beat by voter fraud, believe it. You're taking the fun out of the
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
maybe the same IP but proving it is the same computer should be
interesting, but even if true, I could imagine someone with a laptop or
tablet going door to door registering people or some event at a church
or school doing the same thing
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