On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:27:32 -0500, "bob callaway"
You want to KILL......
Everyone wants to KILL.......
You're a killer and a murderer. I hope the police arrest you before
you do any more killing. Today you will kill weeds, next week it will
be the neighbor's pets, and the folloeing week you will kill the
neighbors and their children. You're a very sick and deranged
psychotic murderer. Get help, you need it......
Just go to your nearest police station, walk inside, and say to them
"I WANT TO KILL". They'll lock you behind bars where you will be
unable to kill ever again. Go now. Do not delay.
Scott's Weed and Feed if it's a nice healthy lawn. Unless you have
those weeds that have "spurs". I can't think of the name of them right
now, but there is only one product that will kill them. It's very
expensive and you have to get it from a specialty store. Home Depot or
Lowes doesn't carry it.
Our lawn service and the neighbor's were surprised when we got rid of
dollar weed (southern version) with Weed B Gone. Worked very quickly on
a lawn that was covered with it. The little that remained was spot
treated and S.A. grass fills in pretty quickly...good reason to use
after fertilizing grass.
This sounds as pesky as Johnson Grass, a noxious weed. I purchased a
fairly new home that had this stuff in it. I had to spray Roundup on
3/4 of it two years ago. My lawn looked disastrous all that summer. I
interviewed two lawn pro's and they both told me to do the same thing.
I was ready to rip the lawn out and rock it in as it is a small patch,
in my front yard. This is a five-year process and I need to keep on top
of it. This is my third summer coming up, and I have made quite a bit
of progress. I just need to keep on top of it.
You are not alone with lawn problems.
Good luck, I wish I had the answer for you.
We have a nasty pest in Florida, one of many household plants that
become invasive...asparagus fern. Not a fern, but a nasty, spiky vine
with lots of tubers. They bear berries that birds carry off and really
mess up hedges, etc. Cut to the ground, wait for new growth to reach
about 3" and then paint with a brush and Roundup. Rather fussy, but
much easier than trying to dig them up. Did same with a few lawn weeds
that were tough. Would work nicely for the occasional dandelion.
My experience with living where St. Augustine flourishes: A climate where
everything else grows as well. One MUST mow their St. Augustine every week,
or if you don't, you have to do more than one mowing to cut it down a little
at a time. Where St. Augustine flourishes, people don't know what an
irrigation system is, as there is plenty of moisture and rainfall to keep it
Hence, an abundance of weeds. You have gotten some good advice here with
specific weeds. Your local nursery and co-op should be able to help you,
too. Look into pre-emergent herbicides, and these, if applied at EXACTLY
the right time, can cut down on a LOT.
Whaaaaaat? Florida? Don't know anyone with S.A. grass who doesn't have
an irrigation system....too much water in summer, none in winter. Last
year, Tampa was so dry they got down to forbidding lawn watering. But,
then, during the recent freeze the strawberry farms had to water to
protect their crops and caused a rash of sink-hole collapses. Ah,
paradise...pythons, fire ants, monitor lizards, poisonous toads, walking
Home 1 that I mentioned in this thread didn't have a sprinkler
When it needed watering I used the spikes.
One thing about that lawn though, it was lake front (back of house to
the lake) and that part of the lawn looked awesome! Never had to do
anything to it. And I'm talking about a LOT of St Augustine. Back yard
was about 200' W by 150' D (depending on how high the lake was).
First thing I did after buying that home was go to Sears and buy a 42"
Let me add to that. I bought the home from a contractor, and he added
about 2 ft of topsoil before laying the sod. The back and one side of
that house was always in direct sun light, so it was very healthy.
The home I own now, has no topsoil, so that doesn't help matters.
Tampa will be green all year but like Norminn says, for about 3-4
month of that year you will be putting about 27,000 gallons of water
per acre per week on it minimum to keep it green (1" of water per
week). If it turns brown you will probably lose it.
We got a real good chance to see that here in Ft Myers when the
foreclosures stopped getting watered. The yards were deserts in less
than a month and when the rains came there were just weeds.
I will stick with my Bahia. It comes back just fine from a drought.
They already restrict when and how much water you can put on the lawn.
I guarantee it is just a matter of time here in Florida before they
just ban watering your lawn completely. It is pretty short sighted to
be putting your drinking water on the grass. The problem will probably
just be cured with the price they will have to pay for it.
Hell's bells! By the time you put 1" of water on a Florida lawn, half
of it will be back in the aquifier. You can saturate the root zone with
a lot less than 1". This is where proper mowing and feeding come in -
cut it high, at least 3" and preferably 4", and keep it healthy so it
doesn't dry out. The city waters during the day, when homeowners are
forbidden....nice afternoon wind and the water blows across the
street:o) We converted a good deal of lawn to islands with hardy
plants, and difficult areas to river rock.
Building code forbids "all stone" lawns, allowing stone for just areas
that won't grow green stuff.
We are again talking about putting reclaimed water into the aquifiers.
Might save on medical expenses, given the levels of pharmaceuticals
found in ground water :o) Drink your Prozac daily and nothing will
bother you, even lumpy water :o)
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:18:34 -0400, " firstname.lastname@example.org"
That is what SFWMD recommends. Most homeowners with a green lawn in
April are exceeding that.
Reclaimed water is far from universally available. When Cape Coral
installed their system it cost the homeowners over $12,000 to hook up
(no choice) and they quickly ran out of reclaimed water. They were
making up for it by pumping from the fresh water canals. Eventually
the canals were going dry. They were still under water restrictions.
The idea that this water reenters the aquifer is flawed too. It goes
into ground water but potable water usually comes from the deep
aquifer, 200' down, below the rock barrier. Nobody wants to water
their yard with the ground water because it stains anything it hits
and it literally smells like shit (septic tank effluent).
The reality is most of this irrigation water just flows into the gulf.
That is why we have so many red tide blooms and algae. The fertilizer
elevates phosphates and nitrates in the estuary.
This is what I have to do to get rid of a noxious weed in my lawn called
Johnson Grass. I got rid of most of it two years ago spraying Roundup
on 3/4 of my lawn. It looked awful all summer. Now, I just take a
paint brush and paint the leaves, and eventually the new stuff will die.
At least the yard does not look as bad as it used to. I was told this
is a five-year ordeal, and it is working. I am going on three years
now. Digging them up did not help as the tubers are way underground.
I was told the birds bring it in, plus I believe two of my neighbors
have it, and are not aware that it is a noxious weed.
I don't know, I may be wasting my time, because if the neighbors' have
it, the wind will blow it into my yard.
Oh the joys of home ownership.
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