When our in-ground sprinkler is running outside, I can hear the water
meter 'clicking' through all the pipes -- including as far away as our
3rd floor bathroom. All the pipes are secured properly using clamps
and we never hear any other water hammering or vibration noises. The
clicking definitely comes from the water meter itself and sounds like
a metronome beating at at 4-5 beats/second. The pipes themselves are
not detectably physically vibrating (though the sound from the water
meter is obviously transmitted through them).
The irrigation system is high volume in the sense that the supply
lines are 1" copper followed by 1" plastic irrigation piping that feed
3-5 Hunter rotors per zone. I assume other high flow applications
would set the water meter vibrating similarly. Our water pressure is
on the high side (about 80 psi) but that is supposedly normal for our
- Is this "normal" for a water meter?
- Could this be affecting the metering? (either positively or negatively)
- Any ideas?
No, it is not normal. I had a noisy water meter for many years, once it
alerted me to a broken water pipe by its fast noisy sound. It was upgraded
to a remote read meter and the new meter was silent. Call you water works or
whoever controls and owns the meter.
Well just had it replaced by the city today.
New meter is nicer in that it easier to read and includes (digital)
wheels down to the 1/100th of a cubic foot plus a nice tattle wheel.
However... the meter is now actually a little louder when the
I checked the flow rate and the sprinkler is using about 11
gallons/minute to feed the heads in each zone. The city input pipe is
1.5" galvanized (but 110+ years old so effective diameter is probably
less). With the new meter I am getting slightly higher static and
dynamic pressure (about 198 and 180-185 respectively).
By the way, the water & sewer guy didn't think I should worry about
the high pressure. It seems like it is common in much of the city.
Is the noise likely to also be a symptom that the metering function is
inaccurate or broken??? I would hate to think that I have been
overcharged for all these years (though wouldn't mind an undercharge ;)
I guess on our system it must be pretty normal because the sound if
anything got louder when we replaced the meter. Must have to do with
the high flow rate of the sprinkler system. Kind of annoying
When I lived in Ga the meter was mounted in the basement and would
click loudly whenever we filled the pool. I used to refer to this
sound as money falling down the drain. This was particularly expensive
when the city quit charging a flat rate for sewer and it was based on
2 times water usage. Shortly after that there was a company opened up
that started filling pools from a tanker truck.
Very true - my water bill for the 3rd quarter is typically over $1000
and I barely water (we live in the Boston area which has one of the
highest water/sewer rates in the world because of the Harbor cleanup
However, all the work I put into the lawn seems to go to waste if it
doesn't rain for a week or so and I don't supplement with water (note
I try to water sparingly only if it doesn't rain for). Our soil seems
to dry out and we have a lot of silver maples surrounding the yard
which seem to suck up lots of water. And my wife complains when the
lawn gets all brown and then thinks we should get a lawn service
(which means throwing away more $$$$).... <sigh>
The energy, time and costs of growing grass is a wasteful occupation.
Our local horticulturist recommends clover which puts nitrogen back
into the soil and is much less prone to pesky bugs.
I must get around to cutting back and front (about one quarter acre of
grass all told, this week or next I think that will be only the second
(or at most third) time this year. If when we get any bare patches
sprinkling a bit of white clover seed works well.
White clover flowers have a slightly sweet taste; but one has to make
sure next door's dog (or cat) hasn't pee'd on the 'grass'! Some people
add cover flowers to salads.
Very bees around this year; why?
Spotted a neighbour recently using some four litres of some sort of
chemical on his minute patch of 'grass'.. Hope none of that blew over
here! Odd two that both his dogs got cancer!
BTW I can never recall ever watering our 'lawn' and this summer we
have had so little rain and last winter less snow that normally so
that municipal water conservation rules have been in effect for a
month and a half! In late June the local water reservoir ponds, from
which our potable water comes were at 'end of August levels'. To
anybody on metered water it must be expensive?
Wasteful is spraying in bright sunlight, the water evaporating almost
as quickly as it hits the ground! Instead of in the evenings or at
night. Lawn spraying and home car washing not presently allowed due to
Think I will find out how much it will cost to get a comprehensive
water quality and chemical composition test of our old well. Thank
goodness we kept the well pump.
Why not replace the lawn or most of it with something suitable for your
climate such as a rock garden or whatever occurs naturally where you are?
Trying to have a putting green lawn has to be one of the biggest wastes
of money and resources going.
We pay (water & sewer):
$9.95/HCF (for 1-20) [1.3 cents/gallon]
$11.95/HCF (for 21-27) [1.6 cents/gallon]
$14.34/HCF (for >70) [1.9 cents/gallon]
Our *quarterly* bills with no watering (winter months) are about 30
HCF and up to 100 HCF during peak summer quarter. This is for 6 people
which comes to about 41 gallons/day/person not including watering.
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