Can anyone advise on the best make of fridgefreezer to use in an unheated
I have a fairly new Lec fridge freezer in there at the moment but the
freezer keeps warming up whenever we get frost or near freezing
temperatures - useless.
Perhaps I should settle for a chest freezer? I hear they are less
susceptible to outside temperatures.
Any advice appreciated.
This is Turtle.
I see this all the time on Camps and refrigerators being used outdoor where
it gets cold or hot.
Here is the rules of the game.
1) keep the refrigerators in ambiant of 60ºF to 105ºF for it to work
properly. When in cold weather like 30ºf or less the refrigerator
compartment has the only thermostat and when the refrigerator section gets
to 34ºF to 36ºF. the freezer section will be cut off and only keep the
refrigerator section at 34ºf to 36ºf . If the refrigerator section is at
34ºF to 36ºF . You can build a fire in the freezer section and the
refrigerator will not come on. There is only one thermostat and it is in the
refrigerator side of the box and if the refrigerator section is cooled down
to the right temperature. the thermostat does not care what the freezer
section temperature is or cares about what temperature the freezer section
I would give you the cure for this but it is kind of long explaining the set
up. Let me know if you want it.
2) Chest type and up right freezers only with no refrigerator section will
work in freezing weather but it is not nice to abuse such equipment. Keep
them above 40ºF to 105ºF if you like them and don't want to abuse them. The
second worst thing you can do to a freezer is to run it in freezing weather.
The first one it to throw it out of the back of a truck at 60 M.P.H. and
expect it to still run.
this is Turtle.
Well let me give you the simple cure to be done manually with no
Get you 4 jugs of water in plastic jugs and during freezing weather put 2
jugs of water stored in side you house in the cooler part of the
refrigerator. then every 24 hours take those 2 jugs of cold water out and
take two jugs from inside your house and put them in the refrigerator side
of the box. Change out the jugs every 24 hour during weather outsideof less
than 40ºF. Temperature above this don't worry about it.
Now electrically you can jump out the lite door switch with a walk-in cooler
thermostat and have the light come on at temperature outside of less than
40ºF and it will give the refrigerator enough run time to keep the freezer
at zero or so. Now you will have to change the lite bulb to a 15 watt to not
over power the box with too much heat. A 60 watt light bulb turned on in a
refrigerator will out run the refrigerators ability to cool. A 60 watt light
bulb is a 60 watt heat in a sence. There is 3 different way to wire it up
but if you want i will send you the wiring diagrams of each.
I have an old junker fridge out on my back porch. There is nothing in
the fridge, but the freezer part if full, because my kitchen fridge
does not have enough freezer space. I left a few cans of soda in the
fridge compartment when it got real cold outdoors. The next day they
were slushy. The freezer works just fine, and the comptessor hardly
ever runs when the temp is below freezing. It saves energy out there,
and there is no room in the kitchen for two of them anyhow.
I dont see the problem ??????????
It depends on the design of the refrigerator and how it was made.
1. Older compressor do not have as close tolerances as today's models
which means that you can get away with a lot with them (but that also
makes them inefficient and energy wasters).
2. You also have realize that in most refrigerators, **all** cooling
takes place in the freezer and just a portion of that air is
circulated through the rest of the fridge to cool there. (not
technically true but it gives you an idea what's going on)
- A "manual defrost" (a usually single door model with a small freezer
box) fridge's thermostat senses the temperature of the freezer box. As
long as it gets warmer than set, the compressor will run and keep the
- A "cycle defrost" fridge model (with a small 'chill plate' at the
rear of the fridge section, probably has 2 separate doors) senses the
temperature of that chill plate to cycle the compressor on and off.
Only if that chill plate warms up will the compressor run to keep the
- On most "frost free" fridge models (the most common style sold these
days - at least in North America) the thermostat senses the *fridge*
section's temperature and if it never warms up enough, the compressor
won't run to keep the freezer cold.
So if you have an old manual defrost refrigerator, it may work Ok to a
certain point if the temperature doesn't get really cold.
This is Turtle.
When it is say 20ºf or less or more than 40ºf outside. The freezer will work
fine. Now where you can run into trouble is when the temperature is about
36ºF to 38ºF which is the temperature setting for the freezer. You can at
these temperature open the refrigerator door and the refrigerator will cut
off and let the freezer area defrost totally. If it stays at about 36ºF
outside for say 3 days. The stuff in your freezer will begin to defrost or
get to a none freezing level. If the refrigerator areais 36ºf the freezer
will go where it wants to and even thaw out. There is some bateria that can
grow at 20ºf to 30ºF even in a freezer. This is why the state health
department requires the walk-in freezer to be from +5ºF to -5ºF to prevent
this bacteria from growing in the food. If you don't care we don't care.
What you say or at least your post seems to fit my case exactly.
We have an upright freeze in our unheated garage. It worked flawlessly
for 7 or so years. Recently this past winter I am not sure now but
just what you say may have happened. It is an old unit but a good un.
I opened the door one day and the thing was filled with frost. It was
as if someone had filled it with icy snow.
We had to throw out everything. I did save one Sara Lee pound cake
that was sealed.
Now I am wondering if the freezer is ok, if I put it inside and let it
run for about 2 weeks to see if it is working properly. I would put a
bottle of water on its side. Freeze it and then turn it vertically.
monitor it for a while and as long as the ice was still vertical then
ok I guess. Also thermometer.
The reason for doing all this is that after the fact of loosing all
that good spaghetti sauce and other great stuff, I plugged the freezer
in and it worked to freeze as usual.
Worth a try?
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