Doug may answer and give you a definitive answer since he knows code real
Yes to attics for sure. I would say yes to under insulation. I believe the
term is accessible not visible They hide them above dropped removable
ceilings all the time but you can't put them behind drywall since it is
considered not easily removable.
That said, I would either make a map of their locations or attach little
vertical flags like the lawn care people use if it was my attic.
Checking the national codes.... 2005NEC 314.29 makes a requirement
"..accessible without remvoing any part of the building..."
Check with your local authorities. The insulation might be considered
'part of the building'.
IMHO thinking. I was taught that intentions were so that no box was
'hidden' for later trouble shootting. I would suggest that you try
and get the box mounted up towards a rafter, accessible thought the
ceiling(below) with a blank cover plate, or if you are ok with the
underinsulation have a sign pointing down and informating attic
visitors of the j-box.
Remember follow codes local, and national.
tom @ www.NoCostAds.com
I'm a little confused here, whats the difference between having a
junction box inside the wall and daisy-chaining outlets. If it is
secure, it is secure. Does this apply to any junction? I've buried
octagon boxes with metal covers where a previously installed outlet
needed to be bypassed. The existing wiring was good, wires were
properly secured both at the wire nuts and with proper romex clamps
entering and leaving the box, in short, much better that the previously
A badly connected termination in a box can be found and fixed. Those buried
in a wall can not be found unless you can see through walls. Nobody ever
makes a bad termination, nobody ever violates a code, and nobody ever does
electrical work that damages property or injures people.
Nobody ever does these things, yet they happen every day.
Codes are established from a numbers game. Any one violation can usually
endure a lifetime of use without a problem, but some number of those same
violations will result in damage to property or injury to people.
Let the wireman who is without short bury the first box. Go and violate the
code no more!
Randy R. Cox
The NEC defines "accessible" thus:
"Capable of being removed or exposed without damaging the building structure
or finish or not permanently closed in by the structure or finish of the
Under this definition, something buried under insulation pretty clearly *is*
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
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