I had a contractor, whose opinion I value, tell me that the way he does
baseboards for a room intended for carpet is to raise the baseboards so the
carpet guy can slide the carpet in under. He said that that's the typical
way of doing it nowadays. He wants to do that on a job for me.
I am not sure if I like that look, and have always seen the carpet butted up
against a baseboard.
Any opinions on the aesthetics of his approach?
I think this is an locality thing. In this area, for carpet, I've just seen
it with tack strip about 1/2" from baseboard, then tucked against
For sheet vinyl, the baseboard sits on top, barring there's not a shoe
For ceramic,wood, or laminate, there seems to always be shoe mold.
It probably would be a good idea, to get local opinions from an actual
Maybe I have not been looking in the right places, but I have ALWAYS
seen the baseboard left up some (normally about 1/2 inch) and the tack
strips set inside just a bit, and then the carpet is tucked UNDER the
its a good look and it's really the right way of doing it. You have a good
contractor! Many would just make it easy on themselves and install it
against the floor. Just make sure you tell him what type of carpet your
installing, short or long pile?
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can\'t make them THINK"
On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 23:52:50 -0600, firstname.lastname@example.org ()
I lived in a luxury building, built in 1930 in Brooklyn NY, when
Clinton Hill was one of the 3 status neighborhoods in all of Brooklyn,
maybe the most ritzy. Although when I lived there, I could afford it.
Hardwood floors throughout, and wall-to-wall carpeting was not used
then, ?or at least not popular?
But in the kitchen, the baseboards were at least a quarter inch higher
than the floor. The (real) linoleum was worn out, and I ripped it up.
Wasn't thick.** It was really nice when the installer put the vinyl
linoleum under the baseboards. Even though the vinyl was much less
thick than the space available, that part never bothered me. I guess
in a way it is "impure" or something for there to be more space than
needed, and that's the kind of thing I care about, but in this case it
didnt' bother me.
**The guy who came to install the vinyl linoleum floor (in 1975
charged 10 dollars for delivery and installtion. Of course it only
took him 5 minutes to install, and he did a great job. It would have
taken me at least 4 hours. I'm not counting the time it took to move
out the fridge, the stove, the sink, the cabinet under the sink, and
OK, I am going to give my assessment of this and why. I have
been doing trim for over 35 years. I am a general contractor
now, but I started out as a trim sub about 30 years ago. I
have been putting in baseboard for a long time.
This raised base technique is fairly new. It started about 20
years ago or so, but I had never seen it before that. At
first, I balked at doing it that way because I thought it was
stupid. I had always run base right against the floor and the
carpet was butted against it. I had several builders that
demanded it and so I did what I was told and installed it
however the client wanted it. I did do some research to find
out why people would want it this way and although I have not
found anyone that can give me a definitive answer to this
question, I have come to a conclusion.
Baseboards and door casing used to be 2 totally different
animals. Similar, but different. If you had 2-1/2" casing,
the base would be 3-1/2". If the casing was 3-5/8", the base
would be 5" or thereabouts. Same profile on the small edge,
but a wider "flat area". It still exists like that today.
Compare the two at this site:
Some builders began to use casing for everything, door trim
and base. It saved a little money. These are the guys that
wanted the base raised off the floor. If you want the same
width (or the appearance of the same width), then if you use
the casing for base, you have to raise it off the floor in
order for more of it to be visible after the carpet is
installed. You don't have to do this when using casing and base.
It was done so much, that it became the standard for about 50%
of builders, whether they used base or casing for the base
trim. Since noone knew any better, it has become an accepted
way of doing things.
Just my informed opinion, but I defy anyone to give a better
reason for raising the base off the floor.
As almost all of your posts are this was a nice informative post Robert.
BTW for the OP. It is also the defacto standard around here in all price
ranges of home.
tmurf has a very valid point about future painting.
But, there is one downside to the raised BB process. There is no way to
caulk between the BB and the floor when you raise them. Even in a new
insulated house this can be a major entry point for cold air in colder
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