Amazon orders 100,000 electric delivery trucks,

[gfretwell]

What do you think the chances are that Musk would drive one of his million dollar mega packs toward a hurricane?

[Scott Lurndal]

Please provide cite.

The NY Times is a newspaper. And the article doesn't support your assertions, it just quotes some consultant in Oregon.

As it happens, we had plenty of electricity during the heat wave, even with 15% of the generation capacity down; the small handful of rolling blackouts were actually unnecessary it was determined after the fact.

And a once in a decade event is hardly something that you should generalize anything from.

I wouldn't know. I pay nothing for electricity, thanks to a small solar array.

The base PG&E rate is 0.23 kwh. The 0.45 rate only affects people that use ridiculous amounts; I never paid more than

0.28/kwh before I installed solar.

Good for you.

Not sure why you hate a state you don't live in and probably have never even visited.

[invalid unparseable]

I never lived there either but it is a beautiful state being ruined by the democrats. Lot of us hate to see that.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Depends on how much publicity he can get out of it. Easy to do 24 - 48 hours ahead of the storm and far enough away.

[invalid unparseable]

Fake post, can't even manage to fake the headers properly.

[invalid unparseable]

That?s a fake post, wasn?t me.

And its trivial to charge overnight if you travel further too.

[invalid unparseable]

That post is a fake.

It doesn?t even work with much bigger distances per day.

[angelica...]

We have an acquaintance who had about a 100-mile commute. He got a Prius pretty much as soon as they came out.

I agree about the amortization. We concluded the same thing about a tankless water heater and a ground-loop heat pump.

Cindy Hamilton

[dpb]

On 9/24/2020 1:56 PM, [e-mail] wrote: ...

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I dunno; probably agree w/ the water heater, but the ground-loop heat pump in TN paid back in 3 years in a not terribly adverse weather area.

Any particular place would depend upon alternatives available, but w/o NG it was real easy in comparison.

[angelica...]

Michigan. We already have NG and our heating costs are fairly low.

Cindy Hamilton

[gfretwell]

from your link and how you cited it

41% became "about half" (renewables) 17.3% became "a very small amount" (imports) 30.9% became "25%" (natural gas)

Does PG&E pay you to twist numbers, they should.

OK so you are saying it was just mismanagement, point taken.

Your neighbors pay for you, isn't that sweet.

I have been there a number of times and if you would just keep it there it would be OK but your media presence and massive presence in congress causes California policies to become national policies more often that most of us want..

[gfretwell]

Concrete tires and rubber roads?

You haven't exactly said how that will work. Are you thinking about a plow like a slot car or are you channeling Tesla and planning on electromagnetic coupling. Good luck on EPA, CDC (and whomever) permits and public acceptance for that. You won't have much more luck that Nicholas did.

[gfretwell]

Like I said, even from were you are the Florida line is a couple of charges away in a leaf, add another one from here. They are not staging a million dollar item like that in the path of a storm.

[gfretwell]

Electric cars are a pretty good fit for a guy with a 15-20 mile, each way, commute in traffic.

[invalid unparseable]

Not price wise they arent compared with a used ice car

[gfretwell]

Nice dream but the reality is Lundal's neighbors are subsidizing his free electricity. He gets to trade the power he makes at full retail and uses the grid for free at night when the solar collectors stop working. Single moms pay for his power all night. It sounds pretty capitalist republican to me.

[invalid unparseable]

Just heard an interesting point:

If you charge your car at a charging station you will pay about three times as much for the electricity as you will pay if you charge at home.

That may be fair as it costs money to build charging stations and they are not doing it for free.

[gfretwell]

It does close the gap with gasoline a bit though doesn't it?

[FromTheRafters]

Yes, I was already considering having a good charging station in my garage as part of the equation. Especially, as there aren't very many charging stations of any kind here yet, one could get stranded.

[gfretwell]

The hidden cost for a lot of people will be the electrical upgrade necessary to add a 50 amp continuous load.