Soliciting some recommendations re: the following scenario
I have a Lennox A/C unit that was installed in 1994. My local HVAC
technician did a leak test and identified a leak in both the interior evap
coil and the outside condensing coil.
The HVAC company in question has a good reputation locally.
My system is covered by a home warranty company. The home warranty company
has given me three options - 1) they will cover the cost of replacing both
coils. I would only be out of pocket by my home warranty deductible. 2)
should I decide to not pursue the repair option they will credit me $1000
(one thousand) toward a new unit or 3) they will pay for the installation of
a refurbished non-name brand 10 SEER unit.
In all instances, I would continue to be covered by my home warranty
agreement (realizing that the new until would also have some other warranty
I am inclined to purchase the first option (repair). Suggestions would be
If it were me I'd do some serious research into option 2 and get a
quote on a high seer unit. there is a federal tax credit for 2006- 07
that would soften the blow some & tax credits come off the bottom line,
not just another deduction. I redid my heat / ac 2 years ago, and while
the 96% furnace is cheaper to operate, the the 18 seer AC is much
cheaper. I would sometimes get into the low $500s on electricity in the
hot months, even at the pre-Katrina rates, I very seldom get a bill for
over $400 now and the house is more livable as well. One feature I'd
highly recommend is a humidistat, it will dehumidify the house by
running the AC on low speed even when the temperature doesn't call for
cooling. Another thing I'd recommend is an April air type filter,
pricey to replace the filter @ ~$35 for just the filter element if you
can do it yourself, but a much better filter with a long life of 1-2
years between changes depending on just how dusty your house is.
Soudns like the repair option will be the least expensive. I don't
have any data on the efficiency, but I'd guess the cost of the new
equipment will be more than the energy saving.
If you do have a real offer of a 10-seer, it's gonna have to be fast.
Cause I thought the EPA requires minimum of 13 seer for any equipment
made after the first of this year. So, it's not likely to find any 10
seer equipment any more.
Christopher A. Young
You can\'t shout down a troll.
There's plenty of 10 SEER stuff around, at least in my town but you're
right, it's disappearing as folks buy it up and the mfg's are done making
I'd look seriously at their offer of $1000 (is this before or after your
deductible?) and upgrade. Your current units are 12 years old so other
things will start breaking as well. Might just be worth it to avoid the
headaches altogether and replace the units.
On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 02:48:07 GMT, "Stormin Mormon"
Of course this was "made" years ago, and refurbished at least a couple
weeks (or a few months) ago. What is the EPA rule going to be about
items made 5 years ago, and refurbished 5 years after the 13 seer rule
goes into effect? They probably didn't say.
Or is perchance the whole rule about "installed", rather than "made"?
I think you are right on that.
I didn't know they rerurbished ACs but if they do small appliances,
it's probably worth it even more to do large ones.
A lot of unknowns here. What is the climate? What is the cost of
electricity? What is the deductibel the OP is out if he goes the
I'd take a look at my electric bills during AC usage months. And I'd
look into possible rebates from the electric company. Many offer
rebates that go up with higher SEER units. If you can get $1000 from
the warranty, plus another $400 or so in additional rebate, tax
incentive, etc., and you use it a reasonable amount, I'd go with
homes are long term investments, its better to spend some bucks
continiously upgrading than patch everything. eventually the save money
patch falls apart and your looking at a LOT of critical broke down
items and a BIG cost to replace:(
easierr and better to do a little bit at a time...
homes are investments and also where we live.
best to care for them!
Besides do it RIGHT, do it ONCE and then relax and forget about it.!!!!
For the record, a couple of companys got exceptions to the 13SEER ruling
that Chris (Stormin) knows little to nothing about, and if you want 10SEER,
all you have to do is ask a legitimate contractor that is keeping up to date
Our state made it clear on the 13SEER rule...install what you have, as long
as you have it, UNLESS its new construction.
Yesterday I heard that come 2010 not that far away the old bad for
ozone layer refrigeant cant be produced anymore, illegal.
Now certinally some will be in stock.
But for a poster considering a NEW system, not being able to buy at a
reasonable cost refrigeant may be a deal maker.
Whats the details on this?
Phaseout Schedule for HCFCs Including R-22
Under the terms of the Montreal Protocol, the U.S. agreed to meet
certain obligations by specific dates that will affect the residential
heat pump and air-conditioning industry:
January 1, 2004:
In accordance with the terms of the Montreal Protocol, the amount
of all HCFCs that can be produced nationwide must be reduced by 35% by
2004. In order to achieve this goal, the U.S. is ceasing production of
HCFC-141b, the most ozone-damaging of this class of chemicals, on
January 1, 2003. This production ban will greatly reduce nationwide
use of HCFCs as a group, making it likely that the 2004 deadline will
have a minimal effect on R-22 supplies.
January 1, 2010:
After 2010, chemical manufacturers may still produce R-22 to
service existing equipment, but not for use in new equipment. As a
result, heating, ventilation and air-conditioning (HVAC) system
manufacturers will only be able to use pre-existing supplies of R-22
to produce new air conditioners and heat pumps. These existing
supplies would include R-22 recovered from existing equipment and
January 1, 2020:
Use of existing refrigerant, including refrigerant that has been
recovered and recycled, will be allowed beyond 2020 to service
existing systems, but chemical manufacturers will no longer be able to
produce R-22 to service existing air conditioners and heat pumps.
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