unfortunately, I can't 'mulch' the tree out to the fall line. and the other days high winds blew the needles much father than the drip line. Much farther indeed. It's a very dense tree and the needles and twigs build up. When the wind blows, they tend to cover a lot of ground.
So I'll ask again...."Is there a variety of grass seed/sod that is resistant to fir tree needles. The tree is 30' plus, and we did have to have the bottom professionally trimmed so that we and our neighbors could walk.
So...again, besides stone, mulch, that would not be appropriate, is there a variety of real grass that will survive.
What part of the world are you in? Why can't you mulch the tree? Is there a reason why the tree is dropping so many needles and debris? It would be very hard, if not impossible to get grass to grow under such a tree. Mulch or rock is a great groundcover. Why not utilize it? If I knew what part of the world you were in, I could maybe suggest a few shade and acid tolerant groundcovers to consider.
Why is that? It's best for the tree, the soil, and the sod that won't grow there.
And, I'll ask again.... "is it a Abies or a Picea"?
Then the "professionals" should be removed from the workforce. They probably "top" trees, too.
Do you think that if the tree were allowed to grow as it /should/ (branched to the ground), that the winds would be able to spread the debris from underneath it? I'll give you a hint: Not nearly as much as it does since you had the *cough* professionals f*ck it up. It was /your/ choice to f*ck the tree up, now you've got to deal with the consequences. Like Newton said, "For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction.".
Geez, you're a dense SOB. How the f*ck would it "not be appropriate"? It's
*most* appropriate. You're wanting to have two different plants compete for air, water, and nutrients. Which do *you* think would win that battle, a
30' tree (with highly acidic debris), or 3" grass (which doesn't tolerate highly acidic soils, well)?
Because of the placement of the tree, it was necessary to remove many of the bottom branches so that people could walk on the public sidewalk. And the sidewalk to the front of the house. Unfortunate, but that was the way it had to go. We live in the Chicago area.
Now ground covers are an option as you mentioned. If we ran the decorative gravel all the way, we would have no grass at all and the gravel would extend to the public sidewalk. As my street is close to the public school, even small sized decorative gravel would end up being kicked and strewn about.
I inherited this, and I'm looking for the most practical, and attractive way to correct it.
As to why the tree shed needles, not sure other than inside branches always seem to be outgrown, break and the twigs fall off with their needles. I always say fir trees like this in the area. the smaller, older branches near the trunk eventual give way to the fuller and growing branches at the ends of each limb.
Thank you for you polite suggestions. I agree that 'ground covers' are probably the best alternative.
I will place the other rude troll on the block list.
I'm not sure what 'toppost' means. I thought it meant using a date far in advance, which I did not do. Nor do I use foul language and act or reply rudely to others.
And the tree will remain. I don't remove trees just because they are inconvenient. I 'try' to find appropriate alternatives to problems.
It means putting the your reply in front of what you're replying to.
No, you're just dense about taking proper advice.
It's not because it's 'inconvenient', dumbass. It's an inappropriate species for the location.
No, you ask and ask until someone gives you the answer you want to hear. You were given the most 'appropriate alternatives' (re: mulch to the dripline, or remove the tree and plant a more appropriate species for the location).
Don't forget about the acid in the soil. These things won't help. And you hurt the tree if you lower the acidity in the soil inside the drip line. Remove the tree and replace it with a more suitable tree for that spot or just live with what you have. Sheesh. End of thread for me.
If you use google, where the whole thread is sitting in front of you at once, topposting works better. If you use a newsreader, where you get one post every X days, then you might forget what's what, if you ever knew, and it's easier to scroll down, although if you've gotten used to long chain emails you learn to go in reverse.
The bigendians vs. the littleendians. Or the Sneeches if you prefer. Or the Purple Drazi vs the Green Drazi.
that's what I thought we were talking about. between the acid, the shade, and the mulching, grass no likee. there must be some low ph loving ground cover. Hell, I've got creeping charlie creeping all over my lawn, I bet it'd grow there.
I would definitely imagine that whatever will grow there will not grow quickly, however, under those conditions, so don't count on just sprinkling a few seeds and letting it take over.
In my journeys thru pine forrests I usually see only very tall grass surviving the pine needles. Often the ground is bare of any vegetation other than fallen needles.
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