I planted them late fall, later than normally advised and with the far
harsher than normal winter on the east coast, expected they had died.
2 weeks ago we saw buds. Last week we saw a few greening bits. Today,
literally overnight one burst into bloom and the other looks like it will
tomorrow. Grin, YEAH!
Lettuce busting loose too.
That makes sense Tom. I can enjoy the booms in the meantime but this first
year after being planted they need their root development to be the main
thing. These are both semi-dwarf ones (over head lines etc, didnt want too
One is a granny smith and the other a yellow delicious. They are
recommended good cross pollenators. Both in the front yard, about 20 feet
or so apart.
Do you know offhand of a site that lists types of apples and good
cross pollinators? I think I am going to plant at least three
apple trees this year.... (Also two cherries. There are two very
ratty ornamental cherry trees at the new house now, and eventually
I want to replace them with fruiting cherries. My plan, perhaps
bad, is to place the latter near the former and wait until the get
a bit more mature....)
There were a bunch of them. One I noted was the crab apple seems to be
workable for almost all types.
Reasonable list there.
Oh, good. There are two crab apples at the new house. That list
will be very useful, because I also want to get two fruiting
cherry trees, which will eventually replace the tortured
non-fruiting ones that are currently there.
Hi Tomj, This is a very old message. 9 April 2010.
It's a followup to one sent 24 October 2009 when I planted these 2 trees.
"I just planted 2. One is a Yellow Delicious semi-dwarf and the other is a
Granny Smith. They are about 15 ft apart."
I lost track of this group when Cox removed newsgroups. Someone just
mentioned it in the home repair newsgroup and I went 'oh yeah!'.
You were right. They fruited like crazy but we carefully enjoyed the blooms
then removed all the fruit. There were probably at least 20 on the yellow
delicious and at least 5 on the granny smith.
Now it's time for their second winter. They've grown a bit but not hugely
nor did I expect that. As they are still filling out, I think no trimming
this fall. They are both about 6ft tall. We had to use some mild apple tree
sprays on them for a leaf mold in spring when it was wetter than normal but
otherwise nothing. In spring we'll do more fruit tree spikes (just a few,
let'em reach natures point mostly).
Ok to let 1-2 fruits this next year try to develop?
Yes you can let a juvenile apple tree mature a couple of fruits, if it
pleases you. How will you feel if animals or guests pinch the fruit?
I have a handful of mature fruit trees (apple, pear, apricot) that had
been neglected for years and were producing scant nasty tasting fruits.
After a few years of cleaning up all debris, pruning, and just a single
application of a minimal quantity of fertilizer, this year all trees
except one produced excellent fruit. The one I think is a feral recruit
from seed. It flowers well in a shady location (!), so for now I am
leaving it for its ornamental value and as a pollinator for the others.
The prunings I saved for use in a smoker and now we are enjoying fruit
wood smoked meats. Yum!
This year I planted some cherry trees. They will need pruning for shape
over the next few years. If I stay on top of it, their pruning will
consist of little more than pinching buds. It is exquisite work, kind
of like bonsai. Many minutes of contemplation, then cut in an instant.
I am considering using wire wraps, a bonsai shaping technique, on the
apples to turn some suckers into replacement limbs that grow just where
I want them.
I have a long fence now decorated with virginia creeper. I want to put
grape vines there. Probably animals will get most of the fruit, but
the fence is on a property line and the neighbors have a dog. The dog
might help guard the fruit.
Followup, they survived well and we left 1 fruit on each though they didn't
come to full size.
Now, they are fallow in winter. In 2 months, (maybe less, weather depends)
we will see shoots and flowers erupt all over them. I can't wait!
Followup, it is now spring 2011 and they are busting loose. Little buds of
leaves everywhere and you can see the initial stages of flowers inside
wanting to come out. The smaller one seems to have hit it's stride. I'm
pretty sure I need to nip off at least some of the apples still, but it
should be ok this year to let a few develop.
Any advice on how many? The Granny smith is bow about 7.5 ft tall and the
Golden Delicious is about 6ft. I don't expect to get eating apples this
year either. Squirrels will get'em but it's just gonna be fun to watch'em
while they last (grin).
we never had trouble with squirrels. more with birds in the top of the trees.
apples go thru a fruit drop and naturally thin out when they set too much. after
fruit drop you can go in and hand thin out some more when fruit is size of small
Somewhere between zone 5 and 6 tucked along the shore of Lake Michigan
on the council grounds of the Fox, Mascouten, Potawatomi, and Winnebago
Heheh well it's my only 2 fruit trees and the only apples anyplace nearby so
the neighbors are all wandering up to make a happy glance (friendly
neighbors, not a problem!).
Snicker, container garden. I'm trying spinach and broccoli too for the
first time. I have 6 tomatoes in a container and 2 in the yard. The Sweet
William is burting with glorous flowers too!
I'm thinking to put in some lilac along the side of the house.
I like evergreens for foundation shrubs, they soften the starkness of
masonary where the building meets the ground all year... I'd place
lilac away from the house, perhaps near the road and/or at property
lines to offer some privacy during warm seasons when people are about.
Lilac loves full sun, it can grow large and with judicious pruning
becomes dense. Shrubs that produce sweet smelling flowers also
attract bees, so you want to place them away from where people
congregate outdoors and from where doors and windows are apt to be
Oh, tell me about evergreens for foundation plantings (sigh). The
new house has hydrangeas in front of it, and it looks hideous. I
learned the lesson about flowering shrubs at my parents' house.
We had to wend our way past the swarming bees to get to the door.
My apple trees have buds with a few blosoms shining all pink and white.
I have one cherry tree that has many blosoms. This is their first spring
in my garden. All dwarf with the exception of the one I started by seed
last year. It's still growing with putting out new leaves and that's all I
expect from it for a couple years.
But for the past couple of mornings, including this morning, it is below
freezing out. I'm in the Pacific NW and while it does still snow, freeze
this time of year, I'm hoping it won't affect my plants and trees. I do have
them protected so they should be ok.
Take a look at the double flower fruits. That have flowers but are
sterile. I have a weeping crab apple and a few cherries about trying to
extend magnolia bloom and Dogwood and Kousa . Look at Stewardia and
Franklinia too. The later go into August here with flowers.
Anyone know of a chart with blooming time for flowering trees ?
My Indian Crab Apple (double flower bloom) is just now opening up.
It is so beautiful with it's bright magenta, maroon color. I can a Dogwood
but it's had one heck of a life for only being a few years old. So no
flowers until it grows quite a bit more.
I may have a chart in my gardening book re blooming time for
flowering trees. Will post if I do.
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