Finally a real storm in Southern California -- thank whatever gods may be!
Dragged empty trash can to front porch where it will fill up quickly.
Garden is always is visibly relieved to "drink" pure sky water by contrast with imported, treated water.
Not that I'm knocking treated water. Without it, this would be a desert.
And may be again if we don't get enough precipitation to end the drought.
Just a thought: With all that Pacific Ocean out there just off-shore, why not scale up successful Israeli desalination technology via a Manhattan Project-sized program.
On Friday, February 28, 2014 1:00:27 PM UTC-8, David Hare-Scott wrote:
Uh, let's look at those factors:
Cost: If Nature (or global warming) continues to dry us up out here on the
West Coast of the U.S. how else are we going to get water for nearly 40,00
0,000 in California alone, not counting other affected states like Arizona
& New Mexico. Thirty years since James Hansen told Congress exactly what w
ould happen and when, it is coming true as predicted. Even the most corrup
t legislator will be forced to listen to their constituents rather than con
tinuing their long, well-emunerated love affair with Big Oil, Big Coal, and
other constituents of global warming.
Greenhouse gases: Not sure I see the relevance, but have a look at what's
been happening in the Middle East. As always, Israel has been a forward-th
inking leader. When you're a tiny blip on the map, surrounded by neighbors
that have been trying to kill you long before you officially became a coun
try, you HAVE to devote resources to survival. One of many Web sites devot
ed to Israeli irrigation, water usage, and desalination:
This research has long been shared with Big Brother, aka the U.S. but until
recent years, the full effect of global warming has not been felt by the a
verage US person, who is focussed more on the next electronic toy than on t
he price/supply of water.
Every drop of water has been recycled through many processes and systems
over the eons. The drink in front of you probably contains some water that
was in a dinosaur, some that was a grub and some that was urine or faeces of
other creatures. Shortening the cycle so that we can re-use water quicker
and cheaper often promotes this gut reaction of revulsion as a first
response, which is understandable. The fact that so many never get beyond
the gut reaction and begin to think about it is not so understandable.
I seem to recall that the troglodytes prevailed despite a public education
campaign and this scheme never went into production.
In the community where I live and adjacent communities, parks, golf
courses, school playgrounds, and greenbelts are irrigated with
"reclaimed" water. The water is the output of our local sewage plant.
Even though some of the irrigation systems spray the reclaimed water
into the air, it is still considered safe for human contact.
In Los Angeles, the Japanese Garden in the Sepulveda Basin is irrigated
by the output of the Tillman Water Reclamation Plant (a sewage plant).
Actually, the garden is over-watered. The excess seeps into the aquifer
that underlies the Los Angeles River. While the river itself is often
little more than a trickle, the underlying aquifer supplies about 10% of
the city's drinking water. Given what residents of the city dump into
the streets, the reclaimed water is likely better than the river flow.
After a rain storm, swimmers and surfers are warned to stay out of the
ocean near the river's mouth and near the mouths of other water courses
along the coast.
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean, see
Not a real good argument. Her is why I say so:
I work for a pump company, meaning wells. There are
rules as to how deep you well need to go so you
don't pick up harmful bacteria from surface water,
including dog poop from our lawns.
That is why a deep well with water from aquifer
with centuries old water in it is so pure.
I am much more confident of mother natures cleaning
mechanism than mans. I will drink the deep aquifer
water flowing out of Lake Tahoe centuries ago.
You can drink the reclaimed toilet water with all
the pharmaceuticals in it.
Our water here tastes better than any bottled water
I have ever come across. And yes, it may have been
dino piss at one time, but it has spent millions of
years percolating through the ground being cleaned
up by mother nature.
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So you don't trust science but only what is "natural", this is just another
way of expressing the same emotional reaction as eeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwww.
You ignore the fact that getting good water out of deep aquifers is
relatively uncommon worldwide, the majority of domestic supply is from
surface water. Cattle shit in the river at my place which is the source of
town water 15km downstream. You ignore the cases (say in Europe) where so
many people in different countries use the big rivers for so many purposes
they are effectively sewers and yet those downstream must drink it as there
is nothing else.
Recycled water is treated and quality tested before going into the system
the same as any other. Water engineers and microbiologists have been doing
this for a long time it isn't some new untried procedure. It is little
wonder governments cannot make sensible decisions when so many of their
constituents hold these irrational views. If it is any comfort you are
probably in the majority.
Typhoid was caused by toilet water. When this was
discovered, clean water became all the range and
stopped the disease.
Yes, I would not made a good settler on the moon
or Mars. I am not a vegetarian for one thing.
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