Wow, Popular Magazined advises dangerous procedures

[Swingman]

"Leon" wrote

Ever notice that some long, wide boards will simpy not stay moving straight over the cutter when all available hands are busy on the outfeed side?

My only problem with the method being commented upon is that, on long boards, and particularly those that approach the maximum width capacity of the jointer, you often need three hands, two pushing on the outfeed table, and one on the infeed side to guide the stock past the blades.

But, there's hope for the future!

It's been my contention for some time now that evolution will eventually give the wooddorker three hands and two more eyes on the back of his head so no one can sneak up and scare shit out of him whilst attempting to accomplish these often awkward tasks in the shop.

That said, all bets are off if you have an aircraft carrier flight deck jointer, like B A R R Y ' S DJ-20! ;)

[B A R R Y]

From two feet away, Charlie.

[Andy Dingley]

So now you know that's a magazine that's not worth reading. Neither the writer nor the editor ought to be working there.

[Andy Dingley]

It's very hard to screw up on a bandsaw in a way that will take your fingers off. I guess Maloof can afford to crimp a blade now and then.

[Andy Dingley]

Just throw 'em straight into the thicknesser. Anythign too warped to come out was too warped to be much use anyway 8-)

[Tanus]

Thanks. I'm getting an idea on how this works now. It may be a tool I use in the future, and knowing that it requires more of a "feel" for it than other tools is valuable.

[Tanus]

I'm the OP on this part of the thread, but not the OP of the entire thread.

Yes, that's what I meant.

That is also what I was thinking.

Here's where I'm losing both you and Charlie.

OOOhhhhh....Ok. Place hands on the wood, bearing down a bit, and pushing the stock that is on the outfeed, rather than pulling the already jointed end. Is that right?

[Bonehenge (B A R R Y)]

Anyone who has:

A.) Seen Glen's work...

-- or --

B.) Read any of the hundreds of other things he's written, including his books...

Would know that even if you don't agree with everything he says, the man has lots to offer.

The blog post is HIS singular opinion.

[Twayne]

More like, we know who's a closed minded fool you mean.

[Twayne]

[Twayne]

True, if all you have is a toy bandsaw. You don't know your stump from a hole in the ground, dingle-berry.

[Leon]

Yes, you push the board all the way through the cycle. First from the in feed end at the beginning of the pass and then as the stock goes over the out feed end you move your hands to the out feed end and continue to push. You do not want to push down hard, as you indicated bearing down a bit, if you push down too hard and the board is warped you will end up removing stock that does not need to be removed.

This is one machine that tends to be an acquired touch to get consistently good results.

[Leon]

Good analysis! The machine for sure requires for you to learn the feel and touch so keep in mind that practice makes perfect and you get better with it over time.

[Leon]

Agreed, every one does something wrong. ;~)

[yugami]

A few weekends ago the TV was on DIY network or something like that while I was eating lunch. I watched some "carpenter" cross cutting using the rip fence as a guide. They even showed the cut piece get thrown about 30 feet.

Way to educate!

[Brian Henderson]

You're an idiot, but then again, everyone knows that.

Blog Me!

[Andy Dingley]

So leave him in the workshop, but don't let him write for a mass audience.

Printing that sort of advice in a magazine is going to cause other people, of less "skill" than this guy, to lose fingers.

[J. Clarke]

If it's cupped then you can flatten it in the thickness planer if you know what you're about, but if it's bowed or twisted going into the thicknesser it will still be bowed or twisted coming out of the thicknesser. For some purposes this is acceptable, for others it isn't.

[J. Clarke]

Well, if they keep using the jointer without push sticks but with gloves then sooner or later neither of them will be able to type and the problem will be solved .

[Tanus]

Got it now. Finances and especially space dictate that I won't be getting a jointer any time soon, but if and when I do, I'll certainly keep in mind that it's a tool that has a bit of learning curve.

Every tool I own does have one of course. This sounds like it has a lot more experimenting than most.

Thanks Leon. And Charlie.