On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:56:55 -0800 (PST), Fred the Red Shirt
Bernard, or Lab, or Wolfhound.
If you only knew Jack Russels as dogs you might think a wolfhound or a
St Bernard as some kind of Horse, cow, deer, or whatever else you
might be aquainted with..
Likewise, you might think a particular oak was ash, hickory, or some
other wood - just like some mistake them for Oak.
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But if you DO see an animal that you DO recognize as being a cat,
would you suppose it is really a dog you don't recognize?
Indeed but also irrelevant as the wood in the picture does not look
ask or hickory. It looks like rubber wood or ramin. I can't tell
difference between rubber wood or ramin, but neither looks at all
like oak, ash, chestnut or any similar wood.
The prices and such listed for these tops at Ikea's web site are,
on the surface, pretty attractive. I got curious to see how much
it would cost to buy one on-line, as there is no Ikea close to me.
In particular, I was interested in the beech top that is 73-1/4"L
x 39-3/8"W x 1-1/2"T for $195. So I went through the process of
filling out the web forms to start the order process. For shipping
and handling, they want $308.40, plus they also add on $41.53 in
tax for a grand total of $544.93. Obviously I didn't actually
buy it. What also gets me is how they figure the tax at $41.53. I
live in Texas, so state tax is 8.25%. Tax on $195 should only be
So the local Woodcraft special for a maple top that is 60"L x 30"W on
sale for $215.99 plus local tax $17.82 would come to a total of
$233.81. Much cheaper.
In another post, someone mentioned Grizzly also sells similar
bench/counter tops. As it happens Grizzly has a top with the same
dimensions as the Woodcraft one of 60"W x 30"L for $159. On the
same page, Grizzly lists how much for the shipping/freight: $74.00.
For a grand total of $233.95.
So the Grizzly plus freight and the local Woodcraft are pretty close,
but I'd go with the Woodcraft option as I could get it locally and
presumably have the chance to inspect it in the store. If there were an
Ikea close by, I'd definitely be interested in what they've got. But
I'll never buy anything online from Ikea as it's obvious they're
gouging on the shipping/handling and then padding what they're
charging for sales tax.
If you want to reply via email, change the obvious words to numbers and
Oh oh, I didn't even realize Woodcraft had a location within driving range
until you mentioned them, and now I've talked the wife into dropping by
there this afternoon, just to take a look around. Something tells me she
doesn't actually believe that. Thanks for the tip, I think. ;^)
I actually kinda doubt that it's "green"...it may be wet, but I haven't
seen construction grade lumber that wasn't dried in mo years than I care to
admit to having.
That said...it may be wet in a "sitting in the rain" kind of wet and it will
twist and warp no matter what, so...let it sit, stickered, and pick and
choose when it comes time to make your bench.
The lumber one gets from either of the Borgs may not be "green", but if it
was ever in a kiln, the kiln setting was for "rare", not "medium"
or "well-done". The dimension lumber from those places usually looks great
in the store, but it feels wet even when picking it up. Take it home and
don't use it immediately and it will make corkscrews look straight in
If one were to buy a pallet of that wood and let is set, banded in a dry
place for a few years, one might get a pretty decent batch of dry dimension
lumber. Fresh from the store, not so much.
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough
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