My goals are the same but I think I have far lower expectations than you Charlieb. All though I'll add one that applies to me, I work in a trade where knowledge will take you further than craftsmanship. Not totally, but people who can do pretty work are valued less then those who can design. For me woodworking allows me to step back and use all my senses. When I was young I did a lot of white water river running to relax, it required a total focus which relaxed me, woodworking does the same thing. Mike M
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