I am a novice to woodworking and have some question. Appreciate if
some knowledgable person in this group can help me.
I am looking into making some ginger bread trims and building some
outdoor furniture. My question is, since I am going to prime and paint
the items, can I use cheap construction wood, instead of more
expensive pressure treated fir or red cedar ? I heard that pine can
also be left exposed to the elements after painting. I am thinking of
using pine for the trim work, and construction lumber for the
Can these wood last 10, 15 years with a coat of paint every other year
? Or I must use rot resistant materials to start with ?
On 11 Oct 2004 17:19:27 -0700, firstname.lastname@example.org (JW) wrote:
Use White Oak, Cedar, Cypress, Mahogany, Redwood, or Vinyl.
Pine and Fir will rot in 15 minutes, if the paint stays on in the
first place. <G>
Since you're painting, you can use lower grades, no need to spend for
furniture (FAS) grade. Do it right, and you'll only do it once.
There is LOTS of pine trim on the outsides of houses. If it's kept painted,
and if it's designed so that water can't sit on it, it can last a long time.
HOWEVER, gingerbread is so hard to paint and keep painted that I would
certainly prefer to use something more rot resistant.
For the furniture the issue is often that the paint gets rubbed off the
bottoms of the legs and water soaks up into the wood leading to rot. Other
places can have the same problem (joints are a particular issue if water can
get in and sit there), but the bottoms of the legs are usually the worst
because they get abraded every time the furniture is moved and they sit on
the ground. There's lots of outdoor pine furniture out there and it will
last a fair while if it's carefully maintained, but again, if I were putting
the work into it I would try to use a more rot resistant wood.
Thanks everyone for responding. My other question: home builder in my
area tends to use some pine for some exterior trims and then paint
them white. If I want to do the same thing, is there any particular
type of pine I should use ? Or they are all the same ?
I agree with one gentleman who said with the work put into making
furniture, it is wise to start with something more rot resistant. So I
have my mind set on using red cedar for furniture.
Consider the work that goes into the trim on your house, the weather to
which it is exposed, and the maintenance it will require, when you make
choices. Consider also that it may take scaffolding or ladders to do that
Consider also that few of get younger with passing years....
The best wood for trim may not be 'wood'.
Much of the original gingerbread trims were made from basswood, cedar and
others. As for making your own out of less expensive wood, I think it would
make a difference where you live. Wood trim will react to moisture or the
lack of it differently in Arizona, Hawaii, Florida or Maine.
The drier the climate, the less important the type of wood becomes. In any
case, good prep, primer, paint and on-going maintenance we insure a long
The thing which is going to kill wood outside is *continued* exposure to
moisture. One place where that is tough to avoid is the feet of furniture
because if the ground contact. Pine legs *will* rot over time.
Exterior trim is less of a hazard, but that still requires good design
(slant horizontal surfaces and no wood within 18 of the ground) and
installation (flashing, back priming, end priming, and calking) to will go a
long way. You Want to prevent water from getting trapped or absorbed into
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