Which router, Hitachi M12V or Makita 3612C ?


Trying to decide which router to get for my table (Veritas table/router jack). I have narrowed it down to these two:
Hitachi M12V (Amazon.com product link shortened)"8013&nP7846&s=hi&v=glance
Makita 3612C (Amazon.com product link shortened)"8013&%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance
Any comments about these two routers? What's the best choice, pros and cons? Ease of changing bits when its in a table? Plunge depth? Can bits be changed from the top of the table?
The reviews on amazon.com looks good for both...
JES
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I've got an older model Makita (3612BR). I've had it close to 15 years and it still works like a champ. I've used it mounted in one of the wings of my tablesaw and also freehand on occasion. I'd buy another one in a second. Can't comment on the Hitachi, no experience with it.
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I have the M1V in the Veritas table. I am very happy with both and the Hitachi is a real brute and worth the price. There are some slight problems you should be aware of. Although the Veritas mounting system is really slick for quick install/uninstall, the Hitachi base is tight and cluttered so finding a mounting postion is not as simple as one might think. If you get it mounted slightly off position you can get some "random height adjustment" from the table mounts (not the router) DAMHIKT.
I use the auxillary height adjust knob from under the table for adjustment and that works well, except you must keep the plunge posts with a slight lube or in will bind and not go down easily. Reaching in for the lock is also cluttered. I would love to hear how the bit jack works with it. Please post if you or someone else uses this combo.
Only real issue that came up was using the Hitachi/Veritas combo with a big panel raising bit. Because the table is so thin, for one project I couldn't lower the blade far enough without hitting the cast "wings" on the Hitachi base. These are for the adapter that holds the guide bushings when needed. I read the answer is to cut these off if the router is to be used regularly in a table. I didn't, just mounted an auxillary table of 1/4" plywood above it and problem solved.
Real happy with the Hitachi but it is big and heavy. I was using it both in and out of the table, but I couldn't pass up the Bosch router kit at Costco recently, so it looks like the Hitachi will be table bound.
Hope these comments help you evaluate the Hitachi, can't help with the other.
Jerry
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Thanks for the input guys, I'll probably go for the Hitachi. Price being the deciding factor...
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