Which 8" jointer can go close to a wall?

I'm looking at upgrading to a 8" jointer from 6". In my small shop, the jointer sits against a wall on wheels - small stuff gets jointed in place, longer stuff I pull it out. When it's against the wall, how far it protrudes is a big deal - too much and it pinches travel between it and my work bench.
Hard to tell w/o examing them in person how far various models stick out - for instance the Delta professional line is horrible because the rack and pinon toothed bar sticks way out the back, where the DJ-20 isn't nearly so bad.
Anyone able to comment on the Griz G0500 - the current top runner? Or other models?
Thanks,
Jim
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Jim: I doubt if you are going to see much difference among the 8" machines. As far as that goes, considering the importance of a good surfacing performance and the fairly large investment, the best compromise might be to wiggle between it and the bench.
The reason I said you'll not see a lot of difference is the width of most of the machines is determined by: the width of the table, the width of the fence mechanism and a little bit of cabinet on the front. My son-in-law just bought a G0500 (great looking machine) and I have looked at the bigger Jets and Powermatics. I didn't measure them, but the fence mechanism on the Griz is very similar, in size and appearance, to the others. If don't know if the Griz is a knock-off design but the are similar. Go with the best machine and deal.
Ron

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Jim Campbell wrote: [snip]

The Griz is 24 1/2" front to back with the fence all the way back.     j4
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I have the G0500... I just measured an it appears to be 24" front to back with the fence pushed towards the front of the machine.
Brian.

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As long as you stay away from the rack and pinion fences the depth of the 8" jointers in general aren't appreciably more than the 6" jointers on stands. For example, I went from a Reliant 6" to a DJ-20 and there is only a couple-three inches difference in depth. Of course the DJ-20 infeed table alone is only 2" shorter than the whole 6" jointer... but you didn't ask about length. ;-)
John
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