If this is a repeated thread, forgive me. I post yesterday and it didn't
show up on my newsreader. So, here's it again...
I was asked to do a job. It's a outdoor deck with a wood spa. I have not
seen it yet. I am invited to see it soon. She said she has "everything",
just need a guy to do the work and said will pay for it. Sounds like she
wants me to re-stain or apply a protective coating. She did said "stain"
for the (outdoor) wood spa. I don't know what it's all like. I don't know
if it's dirty or needs sanding (if needed, I will ask her to rent a power
presure water spray cleaner or whatever else).
I accepted to do the job. I like to know what is a reasonable hourly rate
for this kind of work? Feelings tells me it may be 1 to 3 days work. So,
I like to know what to tell her when I am looking at it. Should I
estimate a full job, like $250 or $300? Or should I charge hourly rate,
10/hr or 15/hr?
Around here, if you can get someone to do that kind of work, and get it
for 15 bucks an hour, you're doing well. We get people coming by who
want 15 bucks an hour to mow our lawn, with our mowers and gas.
I don't think so. She is supplying all the material and supplies; and I
have the sense that you really aren't too expert in this field. $15/hour
would be alot to have you do on the job training. Maybe $10.
Lawn-mowing is rather different. It takes at most an hour and has to pay
something worthwhile. You are getting several days work here.
Yeah, well...we just decided to naturalize the back half acre, so we're
down to 1-1/2 acres. Dodging buildings and trees eats some time, with a
16' x 65' shed, a house and a shop, plus enough trees for most people.
The thing I like best about this time of year is the fact that the
house cannot be seen clearly from the road, so it doesn't appear quite
so shabby looking. The shop can be seen, but I prefer that to look
shabby (board and batten, mostly SYP, after nearly a decade, so it has
lost its color).
i have 2 acres of land and with a riding lawn mower i only take 2 hours. the
trim job takes about 3 hours, plus another hour if i do the hedges as well.
i stopped paying some one else to do it i just bought my own power
equipment. and spend a day in the yard with my wife.
about the deck.
an hourly rate is sometimes bad, the home owner wants to see you always
moving and working.
a flate fee i what i prefer, that way if i want to sit and cool off im not
being given a dirty look for runing up the clock.
A job like that should NOT be priced by the hour. Would YOU like a
worker to come to YOUR house and not give you the total price up front?
Pick a price that both of you can agree on. Then there's no hard
feelings and no surprises unless you do a lousy job. :)
Would a $300 payment be reasonable for a regular job like this? $400? Ahem?
I need a better idea since I really haven't charged people. I helped my
brother-in-law with his deck and also his basement (remodel), I charged
nothing for it.
I have had someone come over and charge me by the hour, along with an
estimate total price (talking like... "well, it would take 2 hours to
replace that, so $40 times 2 comes out to $80"). But I have no idea how
long this job would take me (my guess was 1 to 3 days).
Reasonable? Depends on where in the country you are. Depends on how
much work is involved. Depends on what a pro would charge. If you are
NOT a pro, you should charge accordingly. You may be jumping the gun in
hiring yourself out if you don't even have a ballpark figure in mind for
the value of the work. That's one reason I don't solicit WW business;
my professional expertise was in two other fields unrelated to
woodworking; I could easily price out my work for those jobs but not
for furniture building. :)
Oh boy... LOL... I was just merely asking for a price range, not something
I will start door knocking asking if I could "work for food".
FWIW, I am in Milwaukee, WI. Yeah, the Harley-Davidson city, huh?
job involves... staining the deck and spa? ok, how big of a deck and spa?
How much prep work? (cleaning, patching, replacing rotted boards, sanding, etc.)
No offence intended, but you have about as much info so far as a body shop would
if you asked them "I was in a small accident, how much to fix the damage"
they would probably need a few details, such as type of car, how much damage,
etc.... they might even want to look at the car first. *g*
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Location is everything. What general area are you talking about?
What's very reasonable here in East Westchester County would probably
get dogs chasing you off the property in the rural southeastern US.
what's a fair price for anything? (house, car, labor, etc.)
It's what one person is willing to pay and another is will to accept, right?
I'd suggest looking at the total job before bidding, then use, as a starting
point, the least that you would be willing to take to give up the time and
energy that you estimate that the job will require..
Add a little to that for the motivation factor, plus travel time & expense, if
any, and bid away!
IMHO, you need to have a few losses and a few "I can't believe I made that much"
jobs to even begin pricing your time/skills accurately..
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The point is really I don't want to give her a sudden massive amount,
giving her a heart attach, like "well, lets start with $700" and work our
way down. She will immediately slam the door on my face. I know I will
explain the estimate can change, "give or take". I'll start with $300 if it
looks like a 3 days work. If I find a can of worms, then of course I will
point it out to her. She is very understanding friend.
On Tue, 17 May 2005 18:52:27 -0000, the inscrutable CNT
Friend? DON'T DO THE WORK FOR HER! Working -for-pay- for friends and
family is the quickest way to lose both.
Do the voices in my head bother you?
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