I'm paying too much for walnut locally, and most of it sucks (sapwood
galore), anyway. Are there any mail order outfits you have dealt with
that YOU CAN TRUST TO SEND YOU ONLY GOOD WOOD? What's the max length
they can ship?
I've been paying $5.25 on up for walnut. I'm going broke buying it.
And I'm not getting much of a break on 6/4 maple, except when the
counterman at the local store takes pity on me and changes the
classification of the wood so that I get a decent price.
I don't want to drive 80 miles round trip to go through a warehouse of
lumber, only to find that their stuff is no better than what I've been
putting up with locally.
Bottom line, who can you trust to buy from, sight unseen? Anyone?
Where are you at, David? I've got some beautiful walnut, but of course
you don't know me from Adam (nor me, you). It was stacked & stickered
in the 1960s, stored well in a controlled environment until the owner,
then his widow, died. I bought it at auction ~6 years ago. If you're
anywhere near Milwaukee or Madison, Wisconsin, maybe you could take a
look at it. I've got maybe 300 board feet left, maybe more.
Well, I am using it, but I've gone through maybe a dozen boards in the
last 5 years. And the stack doesn't seem to be shrinking much. There
are 5 or 6 boards in there, 12' long, 14" wide, one slice after another
from the same log. Would make a nice boardroom table...
I believe the 'you suck' is improper if you already did a gloat on this. On
this thread, it is improper. However, on your subsequent post where you
discussed it was all heartwood and nice and pretty, that is a definite in
your face "I'M GLOATING" situation. Most certainly not labeled with a gloat
so in that case it is proper. Had the poster responded 'you suck' to that
comment, he is entitled to that as I believe you gloated just a little too
much in that situation. Seeing that he did not respond to that post, then
he is not entitled to the 'you suck' comment.
I light of the secondary post that where you did go over the top...
So mentioning that it's on top of a similar stack of cherry would be
another example of "you suck"-able posts then? I ask, er, merely out of
That said, what's a fair price for nice walnut, in the Midwest? Old
growth, no sapwood, no knots, rough sawn 45+ years ago 4/4 strong?
They're 10-12 foot lengths, random width. A local-ish woodworker is
interested in 40 or so bf, and we want to come up with a fair number.
I bought some just recently and came to a price of $2.50 / bf. It was nice
walnut but not 45+ years old and the widest board was maybe 7". No sap wood
but had more knots than I would like. For what you've got (if it's pretty
straight), I'd ask the same if not a little more than S2S lumber. One local
yard in St. Louis adds 10% to the price for boards over 9" wide.
No max length by truck. Other than the trailer length :) Most boards
are 7'-12', rarely longer or shorter.
As far as "good wood" goes, depends on what you order...select is better
than #1 common, etc. If you mean lack of sapwood, you'd have to specify
what you want when you talk to them.
I've never had a problem ordering from distant suppliers. Usually use
one in NC as I'm in Florida but have also used some in Wisconsin when I
wanted slow growth white oak.
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52' if it goes by truck. IIRC, UPS has a total size limit.
a.. Oversize 3 (OS3): a UPS Ground package with a combined length and girth
that exceeds 130 inches, and combined length and girth equal to or less than
165 inches, and actual weight less than 90 pounds. For each OS3 package, the
billable weight is 90 pounds. A Large Package Surcharge will be applied.
I doubt you'll do any better online, certainly not if you include
shipping. That doesn't sound too bad to me for walnut, local pickup in
Reading a followup re: sapwood in walnut--sapwood in walnut is not
considered a defect in any grading system. You will definitely pay a
tremendous premium if you specify all walnut heartwood (and you will
have a devil of a time getting anybody to supply it other than someone
such as Constantine's where you will probably pay $10/bf or more I
I don't know your needs obviously as you gave no indication of what kind
of projects you make, but I find that for what I do (almost exclusively
furniture pieces or other cabinetry, not turning or small crafts) the
most cost-effective hardwood is 1C. I typically buy at least 300 bf at
a time simply to have sufficient stock on hand to select from for a
particular project. Only if I have a specific commission requiring
something truly outstanding/outrageous will I hand-select lumber.
Most retail hardwood vendors will allow you to hand select stock, but
they will, obviously, charge a premium for the privilege. Wholsesale
vendors, otoh, will only provide standardly graded material as they
Obviously, the above is imo, my $0.02, ymmv, etc., etc., etc., ... :)
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