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-MIKE- wrote:

Even more amazing is that NOW Barney Frank is acting like he never said those things. His most recent rantings have been saying that the Republicans were the ones who wanted everyone to own houses and he has been saying that some people aren't going to be in a position to do that, so they need affordable, quality rental housing.
The dems are the ones who keep throwing crap up against the wall to see what will stick and old lying Barney's most recent rants are just outrageous in terms of the complete hypocrisy of that wing of that party.
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He did what he had to do because what he inherited. It was a brave thing to do.
and then you add:

and it is those jabs which put you in the 'asshole' column.
You ARE a Repuglican. A contrary nay-sayer. A sore loser. You got your ass handed to you. The is no party left to counter what the entire nation has endorsed as the path to the future. Whine and bitch all you want...and guess what? That is ALL you do. Every post is critique, a whine, a bitch, nothing constructive.
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53% of the Voters endorsed Obama, Not the Entire nation.
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Yes, thanks to uncontrolled financial systems systems and uncontrolled greed on all sides. And almost everyone is guilty, unless now they do hold a useful job and have a positive net worth at the bottom of this recession.

You just should NOT have re-elected that fake Bush, who charmed YOU into a crusade against windmills instead of doing what should have been done. How much have the wars cost us to date? How much do you think are all those poor kids going to cost us for the next 50-60 years? Who reaped the war profits?
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Han wrote:

Nowhere near what Captain Feelgood is going to cost us.
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That will be impossible to separate in separate columns. The war now needs to be concluded and that is going to cost. Whoever is going to claim credit for the next boom, will not concede to be responsible for the next bust.
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Han wrote:

The problem here is that in two single pieces of legislation, The One has eclipsed all of the spending excesses of the previous administration. Concluding the war is going to cost more money, however, that does not excuse 8 Billion going to ACORN that is contained in the stimulus pork package -- a package that was nothing more than the dems paying off their patrons with your money.
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Since ACORN (no relationships whatsoever) seems to me a rather heterogeneous conglomeration, it is not fair to paint the whole organization with the brush that should be used for a few individuals. Corruption and crimes should be punished.
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And you figure that saturating us with those cute names for Mr. Obama is eventually going to sway any of us to see things your way? Is that your raison d'tre? Is this your outlet for creative cute names? How sad. How small.
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You don't have to support smallness of mind with constant emphasis, Robatoy. Sometimes people do themselves in by their own sayings.
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Han wrote:

And sometimes you have to use rhetorical flourishes to keep the small minds' attention...
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Han wrote:

He that outlives this day and comes safe home, Will stand a tip-toe when this day is named, [...] Then he will strip his sleeve and show his scars, And say, 'These wounds I had on Crispin's day,' [...] But we in it shall be remembered,-- We few, we happy few, we band of brothers For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile, This day shall gentle his condition; And gentelmen in England now a-bed Shall think themselves accurst they were not here; And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.
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DGDevin wrote:

At current pace, Captain Marvel will spend more by the end of next year in the aggregate than Bush did in 8 years.
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That is to repair the damage your buddy Bush has done. Get over it. You had the place for 8 years, you screwed it up. Now let the majority of your country get to work to fix your fukkup.
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Don't forget about the damage that we will have to pay for for years to come. At least Reagan won the cold war. Bush II "only" got us spiritually, fiscally, and physically in hock.
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Reagan *announced* that he won the Cold War. If it was a victory, he was only the most fortunate in a long line of leaders, the one who got to claim victory after others did about 95% of the work.
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Robatoy wrote:

It is a sign of profound dishonesty and the evidence of no defensible position when your only counterpoint is to: A) Attack the person of your debating partner and B) Promote things you know to be a lie to make your case. I am not now a Republican. I have rarely voted for Republicans. I dislike the party in its current form more than ever. The only thing that ever makes the Republicans look good is even a casual interview with almost any Democrat ...
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Robatoy wrote:

That's simply not true. Under Bush, we had 23 consecutive quarters of economic growth, low unemployment, and other good things. This in spite of two wars, Katrina, 9-11, and Beyonce.
Then the Democrats took over Congress. In less than 18 months they managed ...
Oh, well. We'll see.
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HeyBub wrote:

Yes, under Bush we had unemployment rates under 5%, Inflation under 5%, Interest rates under 5%, and the stock market hit the highest levels ever, in the 1400's... Yet the economy was supposed to be bad.

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Yeah, now unemployment is going towards 10%, stock market down 6000 points, GM is now Government Motors, inflation likely to look more like socialist Germany than capitalist America and the media thinks the economy is starting to look good...
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Yup. That's what happens when a Ponzi scheme like Bush's runs out of suckers. But you knew that. Now you all get to pay.
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Robatoy wrote:

Wasn't a Bush scheme. The problem had its genesis in the Community Redevelopment Act of 1977. The law was designed to help low-income families afford their own homes - a laudable goal, but totally foolish. The program tooled along without much interest until 1995 when massive changes were made, including government mandates.
These mandates forced lending institutions to provide mortgages under the threat of federal sanctions. Banks had to throw out the traditional rules for making loans - like whether the applicant had a job - in order to avoid corporate death. Various schemes were devised, like low-interest, low-payment loans for some period of time.
When balloon payment time came, the homeowner simply re-financed the house and started a new loan. This worked as long as home prices kept climbing. Eventually, however, everybody who could hear an owl in the dead of night had a home and the Ponzi scheme to which you referred collapsed.
Anyway, it wasn't a Bush scheme. The process was started by the progressive Pollyannas who felt everybody deserved a hearth of their own and pushed to dizzying heights of folly by a Democrat congress under a democratic president. The Bush allies tried several times to reign in this silliness - or at least exercise oversight - but were unsuccessful.
Had the Republican version of "everybody in their own home" been followed (i.e., under a bridge, in a cardboard box, etc.), we wouldn't be in such a mess.
The current solution is, however, helping to fulfill another liberal dream: income redistribution. Inasmuch as the poor and middle class won't see their taxes raised by the current administration, the wealthy will have to be taxed more and more to retire the massive debt.
Unless they go John Galt.
I see in today's news that GM is planning on moving some (all?) manufacturing off-shore.
We'll see.
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