Vista question

Ok, I just got a new laptop. After setting things up I found where outlook express used to be is microsoft mail. Well, I can;t find the newsgroups there. What gives? Is there a way to subscribe to the group?

Thanks

SD

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SHOPDOG
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I got a low end Compaq laptop that came with Vista Basic. It had 512MB of memory wich is fine after I put XP on it, but wasa about 1.5GB short for Vista. I ended up putting Ubuntu 7.10 on it with vmware for running Windows XP. I also upgraded the memory from .5GB to 2GB from Crucial.com for about $79.

As for a news client, Thunderbird works fine under Linux and Windows (XP or Vista).

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Doug Winterburn

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Jim Behning

Tools/Accounts/Add/Newsgroup Account, then provide the appropriate information.

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J. Clarke

Don't take this a gospel, but ---

I believe Vista uses Windows Live for mail but not for anything else.

If you want news you must use Outlook Express (or TB) for that function.

I have not checked to see if the MSN interface between OE and the = web-based mail function in Vista is still viable.

You will probably have to DL a copy of OE or TB from the net to get the = news goodies.

P D Q

newsgroups=20

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PDQ

ok, thanks for the replys.... I found how to acess it through the web (google groups) DUH!

It just not in my mail program anymore

Well at least I can still get it on the road

Thansk SD

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SHOPDOG

Mail reading software is designed to read mail. Same goes for USENET/NNTP readers.

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Maxwell Lol

Bad idea. Some people ignore postings from google gropus because of the spam.

And you can't have kill files. And it's hard to just read new articles (since last time you read them). And it's slower as a GUI.

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Maxwell Lol

Vista comes with "Windows Mail", which is for just about all practical purposes "Outlook Express" with a different label. If you check my headers you'll find "X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail

6.0.6000.16480" which I'm using from Vista. Even works with OE-Quotefix.

Windows Live is a service, not a client.

Personally I'm using Outlook (not Express) for a mail client but that's because I run an Exchange server to get centralized filtering.

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J. Clarke

"SHOPDOG" wrote in news:_2Jzj.11081$1_.645@trnddc02:

My Xnews works just fine under Vista home basic. Free, does yenc, etc. does both binaries and text. Maybe there is a bit of a learning curve, but I tried several other readers (not all by far), and Xnews is it for me.

also see news:news.software.readers

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Han

If you use Firefox, there is an add-in called Greasemonkey that uses a script file called "Google Groups Killfile" which allows for basic killfile functionality. It basically takes the fully rendered page and hides the stuff that matches the entries in the killfine script. It's not perfect, but it works well enough for me.

-Nathan

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N Hurst

You can add newsgroup accounts to "Windows Mail" from the top menu bar by simply clicking on TOOL|ACCOUNTS|ADD| and choosing "Newsgroup Account", then entering your server and login information.

With Vista, you might want to go with "Windows Live Mail", which is more like (almost) Outlook Express than "Windows' Mail", although both appear to be designed by the dumbshit generation that thinks whiz/bang/flash is more important than basic functionality.

FWIW, I'm not a Vista basher, have been running it on my laptop for about a year, and thoroughly enjoy the OS, its security benefits, and its basic Internet functionality...

... however, that does not in any way excuse the fact that MSFT, which always based its hiring practices on "youth", did not take into account the increasing lack of maturity of the subsequent programmer generation.

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Swingman

I visit the Microsoft campus every year for the past 3 or 4 years. I always find it somewhat interesting that most of the staff is young enough to be my children. And I am not all that old. Indeed that youth does affect things as simple as using a 6 point font for licenses (need to get reading glasses or magnifying glass) to things like not understanding how the real world works. They do have some people there of my generation (tail end of boomers) some are great, some are just MS youth that grew old.

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Jim Behning

"Jim Behning" wrote

First, and only, visit to MSFT was in 1994, which was notable, in retrospect, for the response to _every_ query being the apparent buzz word of their culture:

"Absolutely!"

AAMOF, at one point we counted the number of "Absolutely's" uttered by all the Microsofties involved in a presentation ... it was worse than involuntarily focusing in on the "you know's" of modern speech.

Priceless! :)

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Swingman

"Swingman" wrote

Reminds me of John Denver on the tonight show. His favorite phrase was, "far out!" They would count how many times he uttered that phrase during the times he hosted the show. I don't remember the number, but it was far beyond what any normal human being needed to use during any kind of rational, intelligent conversation.

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Lee Michaels

"Lee Michaels" wrote

I have a dear musician friend who delivered the eulogy for her deceased musician brother, also a dear friend.

Another studio owner/musician friend and I teamed up to record the entire service because of the three hundred musicians who showed up to perform a song my wife wrote called "Let Him Go Gently" (She later recorded the song for an album with Ray Wiley Hubbard, and they latter sang it at Townes Van Zandt's funeral at the request of the family).

Point is, I was to do the editing for a master tape of the service. I deleted over 200 "you knows" from a 20 minute eulogy, BEFORE the advent of digital editing, using a razor blade and splicing block!

I don't think the poor girl is even aware of that fact to this day.

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Swingman

Thanks for the correction. From all the bashing I have seen re Vista, = I have refrained from joining the new generation (95/98 is not dead = yet).

Most of what I have seen seemed to tell me that OE was dying too and I = am not a real lover of "Hotmail".

It is nice to know that MSN has seen fit to keep OE viable even if under = another name.

Thanks for the update

P D Q

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PDQ

A friend of mine who was a PhD physicist and big fan of Ursula K. Leguin would drop "So it goes" into the conversation at every opportunity. There were times when I wanted to strangle him.

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J. Clarke

Cool.....

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Maxwell Lol

Was it a drinking game? Or perhaps a toking game?

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Maxwell Lol

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