Very cool, but expensive...

[Electric Comet]

depends on the someone i can imagine a couple of scenarios

i think it is glued together and it is too heavy to carry sorry i cannot help

i think it is glued together i can make the pieces so they will fit through the door or smaller and then we can glue it back together

it is too big to move i think we leave it here and i never liked it anyway since it has gotten to be wobbly over the years and we could never figure out how to tighten it up

we should put it on craigslist and tell them to bring strong people and a good dolly no one will ever think hey it is using the invis system and absolutely no one will have that magnetic tool

[Electric Comet]

it is the keep it complicated stupid or KICS adage

they got their KICS making them

[Leon]

Yeah it looked like one of those infomertials that uses complete idiots. The kicker however is that It appears that if you fit something wrong there is no going back.

[DerbyDad03]

Still, 17 minutes is a lot quicker than it takes to put together one of tho se Wally World units. I'd like to try the Ikea system since I am familiar w ith the plastic dowel/cam and post system that Sauder and the other manufac turers use.

[Electric Comet]

i like his design

it is funny and ironic that those people do not trust him i like his answer to the stupid question he was asked

and mark cuban wears make-up or maybe that is for halloween i really do not trust those people

that guy is lucky to have got away

[Electric Comet]

whenever i see ikea furniture i am amazed at how well the meet the demand for that market

the honeycombed panels are a great idea

but i am also glad because there are discerning buyers that will not buy ikea furniture so that leaves a market for woodworkers/artisans

[Ed Pawlowski]

Good logic. They were made without power tools too so there is no good reason to use them either.

[krw]

I've always found it easier to remove sheetrock in large sections, rather than pounding it to smithereens, too.

[John Grossbohlin]

Yeah... they create work! But I guess smashing stuff makes for better TV and makes some people feel better. ;~)

[John McCoy]

Ed Pawlowski wrote in news:7Judnf6ypZIVlK3LnZ2dnUU7-N- [e-mail]:

Well, I can think of good reasons to use power tools (less sweating onto the workpiece, for example). I'm not seeing a good reason why this expensive and complicated fastner is better than traditional ways of fastening the parts of a bannister.

John

[Ed Pawlowski]

You may be right but to dismiss it without first hand knowledge is a bit harsh. New does not mean better but I can see where a hidden fastener may be a nice touch in some places. I'll keep an open mind until I see it.

[John McCoy]

Ed Pawlowski wrote in news: [e-mail]:

Well, I don't know I'm dismissing it. "Why" is an honest question. I don't see a reason to use it, but I'm open to being convinced there is one for that purpose (altho, in fairness to me, no-one has yet suggested one).

John

[J. Clarke]

It looks like the benefit is that one can make knock-down furniture with hidden fasteners. Why you would want to do this with a bannister though is a mystery.

[Ed Pawlowski]

I'd not use it for knock down furniture.In that case, no tool use would be a plus. As for the bannister, if I was building a high end house I'd use it. Details like that make a high end house just that.

[J. Clarke]

But "no tool use" means exposed fasteners.

You'd use a screwed-together butt joint on a bannister in a "high end house"?!?!?!?!?!

[Ed Pawlowski]

Needing a special tool makes it non-knock down in many cases. Do you give your kids a drill when they are off to college?

I'm suggesting a hidden fastener. If it has the strength needed it would look good. Never used one so I can't say for sure.

[DerbyDad03]

Actually, yes.

I built a knockdown platform bed for my daughter. She wanted a full size bed, tall enough to fit storage bins underneath. The frame knocks down to 5 pieces which easily fit in the back of her car. The platform was cut in half.

I spent less than $20 for a HF cordless drill and gave her one of my quick clamps. Besides the initial assembly when she first took it back to school, she's moved the bed twice since I built it.

[clare]

perhaps along with gluing the joint?

I didn't see what kind of tool or fitting is being discussed, but there are hidden scre/bolt type fasteners used for that purpose all the time.

[J. Clarke]

Well if you need it to be knock down in those cases obviously this is not the fastener to use. It seems inconcievable to you that there might be a use for knock-down furniture other than sending a kid off to college.

Why would a bannister need to be removable?

[J. Clarke]