Upgrade or not?


Hell0 - I have a Delta 22-580 13" planer. I have had problems keeping the feed rollers (infeed side) clean. This results in the planer sometimes not feeding the board. I have to push or pull the board to get it through, sometimes raising up the cutter head to free it. The planer is fairly light, relatively speaking, and on deltas universal open stand. The pushing and pulling has almost cause a tip once or twice.
I do have dust collection - There are virtually zero dust/chips/shavings on the floor, a few on the bed, and an occasional chip/shaving on the board as it exists the planer.
To avoid this feed problem I need to clean the infeed roller after about every 10 or 15 linear feet of stock. If I don't then I begin to have problems. To clean I need to raise the cutter head. I have yet to figure out the depth stop usage. So, repeatability is a PIA.
I have had a project sort of sitting on the sidelines for a while which involves a lot of long boards. I am running them through the planer, skipping the jointer. Several 13', 15' x 4", 6", 8" The specific application is as long rails, base, etc in a wainscoting project. Any slight twist or bow will flatten out when they are installed.
Anyway - The crux of my question.
Should I upgrade to The YC-15P at http://www.wilkemachinery.com/Yorkcraft.tpl or the GO453 at http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0453 ??? They seem to be the same machine.
Will I have same issue keeping rollers clean? Will quality of finish be same better or worse? Will DC efficiency be as good, better or worse?
Am I just wasting $$?? Will I be trading up for a different set of problems? I do not need the width.
Anyone want a Delta 22.580? Great condition. Make offer.
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"No" wrote...

These little portaplaners like to have their platens waxed. I think if you wax the platen you'll find you can cut quite a bit of material before having to wax it again, and you won't have to mess with the rollers.
Of course, having the bigger planer is aways nice, but still a good idea to wax the platen to keep things slippy.
Between running multiple pieces, sanding, etc., I've never had finishing problems from using a little paste wax on the planer platen, jointer fence and tables, and saw table.
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"No"

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Get a Dust Collector. The planer will work properly.
Dave
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Looks like you read it the same way I initially did. Reread. He says he DOES have dust collection. For some reason (maybe deciding the solution before reading the problem?) I read "do not" as well, the first time I read this.
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Teamcasa wrote:

Dave - I DO have DC. My dust collector only moves, according to specs, 1550 CFM with 11" of static pressure. Do you really think I need a bigger dust collector? I have this one http://www.grizzly.com/products/G1029Z I only have the piping open to the planer and nothing else. I Do have a few feet of ridgid piping and a couple of elbows in the mix. My point is, I have very little shavings/dust/chips left behind EXCEPT on the infeed roller. It very weird.
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I apologize. I read you post incorrectly. I read you did not have a DC. When my planer, a similar model stops pulling wood properly, I clean the rollers with alcohol and a 3m pad. Then I paste wax the platten. Works for miles before I need to clean it again. BTW, what kind of woods are you working with? Some woods, like Ipe for instance, will gum up the rollers very fast.
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Teamcasa wrote:

I clean rollers with green scrub pad too. I do it dry usually. Sometimes a bit of water. I have not waxed the bed (Platten?). Like I said in original post, I need to clean the infeed roller about every 15 linear feet. Poplar, Cherry, Mahogany, Lacewood, Oak, Pine. Dealing with a lot of poplar right now.
My DC efficiency I'm sure has something to do with it. Once I forgot to open the blast gate and the wood stopped feeding after about 3'! When the DC is working I have virtually no dust/chips/shavings left behind EXCEPT on the infeed roller.
What I'm really looking for is someone to say "hell yes, one of those 15" planers will be significantly better in all aspects" I do not want to give up DC performance (Dust, chips on floor, in air) and quality of cut. The proposed models, I assume, will be a bit quieter, have sharpenable blades, be more stable and always feed ???
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I have both a 12.5" 22-560 and a DC-380 15.0 planer.
The 22-560 doew a fine job but it is lighter and a wee bit of a pain to work with.
The DC-380 is VERY heavy and quite powerful with a full blown induction motor.
It is very difficult to do a "fair" comparison of the two planers, but I will say this. The lunch box planer does produce a much finer cut in my opinion.
The blades are 50 times easier to replace.
The DC-380 is a major league horse and will plane ALL day long with NO stopping. Changing blades is a long and tedious affair....
I have both and I like both for different reasons.
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Hell yes, one of those 15" planers will be significantly better in all aspects.
Really, it will. Use one only once when we put a bunch of cherry through it and not a hint of bogging down. One guy feeding, another catching, it went real quick. I have the same Delta as you, but my use if light enough that I can't justify a big one. No comparison though. Comparing a mini-van to a 10 wheel dump truck.
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Should solve your problem. Iron planers with serrated steel infeed and bed rollers solve the problem of rubber and poorly waxed platens. The capacity won't go to waste. You'll find some use.
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No wrote:

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One thing that nobody has mentioned is that the larger machines use serrated steel infeed rollers rather than rubber ones. This means that you may have problems with the roller leaving marks on the wood if you take a really light pass.
Chris
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