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1. Drop posts from " firstname.lastname@example.org" which are invariably off-topic
political diatribes. This sender has never posted anything on-topic in
2. Pass subjects referencing, e.g., "Cummins Tools", which previously were
dropped because the first three letters matched some of the troll posts. Posts
containing those three letters, and *not* containing "Cummins", are still
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
I'm in the process of learning Microsoft Visual Studio .NET. I wonder if
filter updates could be a web service. The filter program would have to be
updated to be able to input/output in ie XML but it seems to me it could
work. The first person to download an objectional message would update the
filter and upload. Everyone else would never see that message if their
filter was configured to "Update from web service before NTTP connect."
This could be the "Moderated Newsgroup" holy grail many are seeking.
I have an ASP.NET enabled web site with SQL Server 2000 so I could host (one
of) the Newsgroup Filter web servii. I don't have plain Win32 development
tools, though, for non .NET client pieces. (Two hard disk crashes this year
and I didn't reinstall the older tools, just .NET stuff.)
Thoughts? Is something like this already at SourceForge?
This is even worse than having a moderator. The biggest objection that most of
us have to a moderator is the difficulty in finding one (or a group) that
would be acceptable to everyone. This scheme would allow *anyone* to be a
censor of *anything* for *everyone*. I would never configure a newsreader to
automatically D/L a filter file that could be updated by anyone and everyone.
I think the current scheme is working quite well, thank you very much. I
haven't seen *any* of the posts in the latest turdstorms (other than entries
in my "dropped articles" list, showing only the message-id), and several other
people who are using my filters have posted to say that their experience
matches mine. I'll continue to make my filter file available to anyone who
wants to use it, and I would hope that those who do, don't use it blindly
without at least looking at it first to see what it's doing.
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
I think this could be dealt with. My one-paragraph description left out
pages of thoughts. ;-)
My filters don't catch the product spammers who mess with their email
addresses. I think an improved filter could do a good job of guessing at
probable spam when an address is "pretty close" to one already blocked.
Actually, I find the concept of a "filter" too limiting. I have no idea
what OE is blocking. I'd like the filter integrated into the newsreader,
where the filter is more of a "view." You could always see what was blocked
if you wished. Naturally there would be levels of severity. A message with
4 of the 9 words in the "Nasty of Nasties List" in its header would be
blocked much longer than a message with just one.
Naturally you don't want anyone to be able to block "router" and "table saw"
for everyone, or block all posts by "charlie b." But I think this can be
done with proper design and implementation.
It's not something I would be interested in, even if such a filter
scheme could be designed to accomodated the wide variety of
newsreaders/operating systems people on the wreck use.
I prefer to control my computer as much as possible. Ceding something
as personal as newsgroup filtering goes against that preference.
Include me out...
The latest storm got me to finally do something myself, other than turn the
machine off, and go out to the garage/shop/studio.
The fact that I used modified filters posted by a Wrecker, on software
recommended by a Wrecker, is another testament to the power of community.
HOWEVER, I believe that I have the responsibility to learn and understand
my software tools, just as I need to understand the woodworking tools and
finishes, rather than cede decision-making to anyone else, no matter how
People can, and often do, recommend to me, try to teach me, preach to me,
but it my responsibility to decide.
Now, back to the shop to work on the cabinet.
I'll think about that. I can't guarantee that I'll remember to change the
timestamp every time I change the file, though...
For a copy of my TrollFilter for NewsProxy/Nfilter,
email me at filterinfo-at-milmac-dot-com
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