Tree growth rings disprove that the earth is warmer now than during Roman times and or even 1000 years ago.

The government does some dumb things, like giving away "free" water to farm unfarmable land. Sure.

Your "common sense" is nonsense.

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krw
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Winter.

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krw

Yeah, I didn't do that quite right. But I hope the jist of it remains.

And you are smack on about simulations being offered as anything by simulation.

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Richard

------------------------------ If you buy somebody a book and instead of reading it they eat the book's cover, there is not much point in buying that person a book in the first place.

Same can be said for trying to explain an idea to some folks.

Lew

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Lew Hodgett

Me too, the greenies seem to think that because there is no pollution coming out of the tail pipe that there is no pollution.

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Leon

Dunno, most don't want nukes. They really don't want anything; back to the caves.

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krw

Sorry to interrupt your wild dreaming, sir. I forgot that you were a True Believer (in AGWK) and should know better than to fool with that. Facts and truth mean nothing to youse guys.

Nexxxxxxxxxt!

-- Win first, Fight later.

--martial principle of the Samurai

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Larry Jaques

911,000 people seem to think they have that licked. See:
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Win first, Fight later.

--martial principle of the Samurai

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Larry Jaques

My current squeeze is from that area, a suburb of Buffalo (Sasparilla or something like that). A year ago, I went with her to meet her family. Pleasant enough, but...

The plane trip caused a deep vein thrombosis. A few days after returning I came down with double pulmonary embolism.

My dearly beloved called 911.

In slightly more than FOUR MINUTES, I had FIVE EMT's and paramedics in my bedroom. Outside was an ambulance and a fire truck. Luckily, I live about six blocks from a Class I Trauma Center.

All better now, but the insurance company is out $72,000.

I blame New York.

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HeyBub

Maybe so, but why would anyone WANT to "deep six" a mess of CO2?

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HeyBub

So uh like, ummmm Han! ;~) You think CO2 is a bad thing and should be curbed as much as feasible but not enough to buy a greener vehicle???

The responsibility is every one else's ???

Maybe not bad enough or causing enough trouble that "you" should change... ;~) ======================================================================== Learned that one from Al Gore.

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CW

-------------------------------- Too much of a stretch for your thought capabilities?

Lew

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Lew Hodgett

"HeyBub" wrote in news:4IudnY8fIJLDJpXNnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.com:

By "fertilizing" the ocean with iron sulfate, they caused a bloom of plankton and all kinds of tiny sea creatures, who all fixed CO2 into their organic bodies. When they died, they sank to the bottom,hence my choice of words.

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Han

Nope. There IS a glut, but not because of a mild winter; there's an abundunce of NG due to increased discovery and production methodology (i.e., "fracking").

Today, we have, in the U.S., about 270 trillion cu ft of proven reserves.

U.S. consumption is about 1.5 trillion cu ft per year. At current levels of use and known reserves, that comes to a 180-year supply.

Since the beginning of 2001, the price of NG has dropped from $6.82/1000 cu ft to $1.89.

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HeyBub

Show one aquifer harmed by fracking.

Assuming that you can't, explain how an aquifer, 200-500 ft underground, can be contaminated or otherwise influenced by something happening five to

15,000 below it.
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HeyBub

Actually a perfect fit for congressional duties ... a comedian, elected by TV fans.

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Swingman

Bingo ... give that man a case of MinWax.

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Swingman

"HeyBub" wrote in news:zLGdnQ6Aw4830pTNnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.com:

You missed the "in part" I mentioned. As more power plants switch or get newly built to use natural gas, the excess supply will decrease. They're building or are going to build a liquified natural gas plant somewhere in the South. Originally meant to be for importing LNG, it is now being modified for export. That'll take some of the supply to other countries (Japan? China?). All great for the US economy. Perhaps less so for the people living near the wells (Larry J?).

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Han

"HeyBub" wrote in news:qvmdnUgGE7eLzJTNnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.com:

Now, don't be a denier here ... There are many ways. Some are:

The well bore wasn't sealed properly, especially where it passed through the aquifer. It has happened ... The fracking caused mini earthquakes that damaged the old natural seal below or above the aquifer. The fracking waste contaminated what was a good source of drinking water.

I am in favor of fracking if properly regulated with ALL potentially applicable environmental regulations adhered to. So far in many jurisdictions, the frackers (I'm leaving off an adjective) have played fast and loose with regulations and contractual obligations. That damages the industry. Don't the (left out) frackers realize that?

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Han

See, here is another fellow that thinks new cars hatch from eggs...

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Richard

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