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I wanted lockable space behind the seat. I also didn't want a monster truck (it's a Ranger).
I wonder why people put caps or covers on pickups. If you want to cover the thing, get an SUV.
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Gas economy. I have been told without a cover and with the economy goes from 12 mpg up to 20 mpg on a full size pickup.
This may not be any concern in the USA as their gas prices are so cheap and their air doesn't matter.
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I wonder why people put caps or covers on pickups. If you want to cover the thing, get an SUV.
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On 1/18/2012 8:42 AM, m II wrote:

Wrong wrong and wrong. It has been proven time and time again, that covering the bed of a truck or letting the tailgate stay open does not improve gas mileage one iota. NADA, nil, zilch. zero. not an ounce saved. period done.
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You have any cites for that information or where did you get this opinions from? I would be really interested to see it or know what your statement is based on, at least, just for interest sake.
I have been told this by pickup owners for a long time and it makes sense to some degree but not some of the radical numbers I have been told.
I only drive mine with a cover on, unless loaded to the top, and have never cared about economy. It was a Chevy POS bought to do a job and sits idle now. I never drove it over the speed of sound so I know the tail shape becomes important to wind resistance.
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Wrong wrong and wrong. It has been proven time and time again, that covering the bed of a truck or letting the tailgate stay open does not improve gas mileage one iota. NADA, nil, zilch. zero. not an ounce saved. period done.
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:42:37 -0600, Steve Barker

what's in the bed.The toneau on my '57 Fargo gained me almost 2MPG on the highway when I had boxes of stuff in the bed. And a full cap, with the proper shaped roof, CAN do better than that. (as can a properly shaped "spoiler lip" on the top edge of the tailgate).
However, for me, the BIGGEST reason to have a cover on a pickup is so I don't need to shovel a ton of snow out of the box, and I can cary stuff in the back with some level of security - without it getting wet when it rains, dirty on a dirt road, blown out on the highway, or pinched when I park the truck.
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In your dreams. A couple of percent, tops.

It matters, but my little truck only gets 15MPG, on a good day )4WD kills gas mileage).

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On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 03:33:28 +0000 (UTC), snipped-for-privacy@rahul.net (Edward A. Falk) wrote:

Oh, good grief!

...and no 4WD.
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 03:33:28 +0000 (UTC), snipped-for-privacy@rahul.net (Edward A. Falk) wrote:

mileage even when disengaged.
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Full time 4WD used to have disconnects at the wheel hubs.
---------- wrote in message FullTime 4wd has no disconnect - and the extra weight of 4wd affects mileage even when disengaged.
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run. There were "manual" and "autromatic" locking hubs. Warn was the major manufacturer. The automatics released if you backed up with the transfer case disengaged. Automatic 4wd today uses a differential disconnect (really just disconnects one drive axle) and full-time 4wd drives all 4 wheels all the time. (Also known as AllWheel drive)
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You could disconnect the wheels from the old Jeep 4WD if you hung under the chassis while "on the run".
I don't remember names for any types of 4WD back then. These appear to be some new advertising hype.
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That is *not* "full time 4WD". There is a reason it's called "full time" or usually AWD ("all wheel drive"). Yes, you can disconnect the hubs (a switch on the dash does it in mine) but you're still dragging the transfer case around (both weight and gear friction).

AWD means just that.

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On 1/18/2012 10:32 PM, m II wrote:

in which case it wasn't a "full time" four wheel drive. the real full time 4x4's did not have lockouts (manual or automatic) on the hubs.
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:54:59 -0600, Steve Barker

And if not, you are agreeing with my post.
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Lazy editing rules!
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snipped-for-privacy@snyder.on.ca says...

The quoting on the post is messed up--it looks like both original and response are quoted at the same level so it's difficult to figure out who said what.
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On 01/18/2012 08:28 PM, snipped-for-privacy@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:

My Chevy Silverado Duramax 8' bed gets 22mpg on the highway, 14mpg towing 10k lbs 5th wheel.
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To keep prying (thieving) eyes off what you've got whilst still retaining the usefulness of an open back for when you need it?
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Somebody wrote:

Cause like me, they want a bigger hatch back.
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wrote:

Get an SUV.
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