The current This Old House series is about renovating a brownstone in
Brooklyn, New York. The architecture and general New York approach is not
something I would be comfortable with. Those house do not look comfortable
to live in.
The wife of the couple who is doing this remodel has her own unique view of
all things that go in this house. To paraphrse her remarks concerning
kitchen cabinets, "I specified cherry for the cabinets. Because cherry
stains so nice. I could make them just the color I wanted."
Apparently cherry is not a pretty enough color for her. Most of her design
decisions follow along this kind of logic. Maybe when she gets done with
this project, she could hire herself out as a prison designer.
To be honest to her, perhaps she wanted to match the cabinets
to a color of the old wood that abounds in their rooms. I think
the cherry cabinets are in the ground floor apartment. They
are very dark but they seem to complement the
rest of the dark woodwork.
I have some friends who are doing a remodel. Their cabinet
maker is also "staining" cherry. I've told what a sin that is.
They don't seem to care about that at all. They are going
for a "look".
It is not a "sin". It is a choice. A perfectly viable choice.
It's their cherry, they can do what they want with it, including
Just because neither you nor I would, doesn't mean they shouldn't.
That's ridiculous; zinc isn't going to stick to a diamond! (sheesh)
Yeah I tell ya, every time I refer back to these pictures of the cherry
rocking chair I made for my little brother:
I kick myself for not using stain! That way he wouldn't have had to
wait the extra year for it turn three shades darker than what shows up
in the photos... He practically wore out the underside of the rockers
waiting for it to happen! I'm such a selfish bastard.
Free bad advice available here.
To reply, eat the taco.
....and I forgot to mention that there is a fine example of why cherry
is my non-plus-ultra favourite wood. There are more exotic species,
some birds eye maple can be breath taking, but only cherry does what
it does and that picture of your chair shows it as clearly as anything
else I have seen.
Thankie for the kind words! I'm not usually one to toot my own horn,
but if showing off those photos can save one piece of cherry from the
stain zombies then I'll be happy.
PUT DOWN THE STAIN AND STEP AWAY FROM THE CHERRY! :-)
See Nad. See Nad go. Go Nad!
To reply, eat the taco.
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:44:53 -0500, the infamous Jack Stein
Yeah, gawdjus. Just gawdjus! Hey, Steve, try a UV light next time you
want to hurry up the oxidizing of the cherry. (Disclaimer: I haven't
tried it but heard that it works. Caution: Do not stare into the UV
light with the remaining eye.)
A book burrows into your life in a very profound way
because the experience of reading is not passive.
Thanks Larry. I remember your kind comments right after I built this chair;
geez, how many
years have intervened since then? I dropped out of here for quite a while after
noisy "puppy wizard" business, but apart from all the political crap I'm happy
to see the
group is back to some level of sanity, and it's good to see you back here as
well. I don't
have any Cherry projects in the queue, but I'll keep the UV trick in mind next
"Even if your wife is happy but you're unhappy, you're still happier
than you'd be if you were happy and your wife was unhappy." - Red Green
Perhaps, "shame" is a better word? The wife puts a table cloth on
a cherry table we bought in Amish country about 2 years ago. I never
see the beautiful wood at all. I just saw an exhibit of Shaker
and I like the patina that furniture takes as it gets used.
As someone else noted, if you're building in cherry and staining it,
not poplar or maple, etc.
Bottom line, it's their money as I told them. If they like it, who am
say otherwise. I just think they might want to reconsider.
Amidst all the "noise", that is the only part that matters. They paid for a
job to be done a certain way so that's what they ought to get. If you don't
want to accept the job, someone else will. It doesn't matter how anyone
else thinks it should (or should not) be done.
of saving money. Recycling od doors, reusing anything from the old house
It doesn't make sense to pay MORE for cherry to stain it. As was pointed out
by others, there are a lot of other woods that can be stained that cost far
less. For somebody who is supposedly economizing, she screwed up big time
on the cherry cabinets.
Again, it's *her* economy so it's *her* choice. Apparently the cherry
didn't look like she wanted and she is the one who's got to live with it.
To her it made sense. End of story.
On jobs I've had, I've tried to explain "false economy" and how doing such
and such will save a few dollars. Sometimes the customer goes for it,
sometimes not. I don't ever remember turning down a job because I thought
the work was stupid. (ps: note I did not say I never thought a job was
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