Sorry, there's a reason there is safety equipment. The above is like
saying you don't need to use the saw guard or the splitter or push
sticks, your finger fits between the fence and the blade... sort of...
The safety equipment we have now works just fine, we don't need
another piece of mandatory, expensive equipment, that isn't
demonstrated to be any better than what we have, any more than I'm
sure rollerbladers would be terribly happy to be told they have to
wear full-body baloon-suits, just in case.
I bet a bunch of people said that then the common POS guard, that comes on
almost every saw, was mandated also.
Perhaps you do not see the need for more safety equipment but enough people
did to warrant SawStop making the commitment to see this through.
I think the fact that they went into production and are selling is enough
evidence. Just in this small group there have been responses from 3
different owners of the SawStop. One is getting ready to buy another, and
Robin Lee has indicated that he is replacing all the TS's in his stores with
No, I have not bought one yet. I simply think it is a great idea and if I
do ever replace my cabinet saw I will consider it. By then there may be
something better out on the market. Powermatic has a new model that I would
place between the SawStop and the other American style saws as far as added
safety features. The trend is starting to shift in that direction. If
you are going to be the only operator of the saw and have no need to
purchase a new saw I would say wait. If you are in the market for a saw I
would say strongly consider the SawStop if you can afford it.
No I mean every one that removes the guard and having accidents or not.
Why would prople that bought a saw in particular for its safety feature
disable it? It certainly does not get in the way or block you view when
being used like the standard guard does? Why did you remove yours and
replace it with an overhead guard?
Please. That is the primary reason that they and or any other business in
business, to make mone first and formost.
If they force the
Because we're not talking about people who go out and purposely buy
SawStops, we're talking about people who are forced to pay extra for a
piece of technology that they neither want, nor need. The fact that
every time the thing goes off, you're out $200. You don't think
people are going to disable that?
Yup, and they want an entire industry to use *THEIR* technology. It
isn't a matter of them campaigning for *SOME* safety equipment, they
want everyone to be forced to use *THEIR* equipment.
This has nothing to do with safety, it has to do with making a buck.
Well so far no one has been forced to do anything. So if they buy the
SawStop it is their own decision.
No, I do not think a person will disable the SawStop and IIRC there has been
no mention by the owners of the SawStop of purposely defeating the system as
a permanent cure.
Well, wouldn't you, if you were in their shoes? Seriousely wouldn't it be
nice if you were legally getting a percentage of every TS being sold?
That is not entirely true. They could just as easily be marketing something
else unique for the TS and try to have it mandated also. They did however
realize that a better safety devise would cut down drastically on severe
injuries. Suppose they decided that every TS should have a laser cutter
that only cut wood and only cut as deep a the thickness of the wood. The
technology is here as most WW shows have a vendor selling laser engravers
and some are less than $10k. That could easily be around the corner and
would give SawStop and every one else a run for the money.
You can sit back and watch other countries continue to out manufacture the
US but I think the SawStop company is a breath of fresh air in contrast to
the some ole some ole.
And again, it is for the buck like every other company in the U.S.
That may not hold forever, if SawStop gets their way.
Well, if they ever did mandate it and I was forced to buy a saw with
their technology, I'll be the first one to disable it.
If I had to force everyone to buy my product, nope. That's why we
have this thing called the FREE MARKET. It means people have a choice
whether or not to buy. If they have no choice, they have no freedom.
That's kind of an idiotic statement don't you think? Why would anyone
disable the safety feature? If you're forced to have the technology as you
claim, then it's only to your advantage to use keep that safety active. It's
not like disabling it is going to make you any safer. And even if your worry
about a false activation is your motivation for making that statement, you
could wait for it to happen and then disable the safety feature and all
you'd be out would be the blade.
Still don't get it here. Mandating a safety DOES NOT prevent you from
buying a saw with out that feature. There are thousands of used saws if you
have to have on with out the feature.
You simply choose to buy a saw with the feature or not.
This thing you think is a free market unfortunately has no effect on auto
insurance or new cars.
Most everywhere you have to have auto insurance and you have to have air
Well, for the past 18 months, I've been in NM. Before that, I was in
NJ. And before that, we lived in Ohio for a couple year. And up until I
was about 10, I was in upstate NY.
Why do you ask?
While not successful in getting other companies to license their product
they seem to be pretty successful in bringing the saw to market and having
happy owners. There have been a few complaints of misfires but IIRC the
situations were resolved. Imagine buying an automobile that has no
You know, this is why people don't like newsgroups. ALL I was saying is
that I found this saw to be amazing. Okay, SHOOT ME! I'm sorry!!!!
Damn, what is it with people? I didn't know this was "common" knowledge
and I thought I'd share it.
I apologize for trying to be nice.
"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> wrote
No big deal. It is just that it has been a long drawn out argument around
here and another thread just makes people pick up where they left off.
Anyone who gets irritated with you for posting this and couldn't tell
exactly what your post was from your subject line without reading it can go
piss up a rope.
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