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On 08/16/2015 9:56 PM, snipped-for-privacy@snyder.on.ca wrote: ...

Actually, our Mr. Miller describes a moving (XY axes_ table saw in his patent outlining the manner in which it was used...
"Those saws being in motion, the matter or substance they are to cut is brought forward as follows:— The horizontal shaft, as mentioned before, hath a small wheel on it, with a groove to receive a rope; the rope is continued to a smaller, that hath a pinion to it, connected to a straight bar under the chariot, which hath teeth to match the pinion; the chariot moves in a groove likewise on a centre; it hath two motions. one to advance forward, and the other sideways, which is performed by a screw annexed to the end of the chariot. This screw is turned by hand to direct the pieces against the saws, agreeable to any line wanted to be cut."
Now, granted, he being a sailmaker (and other &c &c :) ) undoubtedly his version was more for beams and all for boatmaking and hence quite a lot larger than the typical furniture/cabinet maker's needs, it clearly was a tablesaw for the purpose of other than sawing logs lengthwise into lumber.
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I think what he's describing there is a sawmill, not a table saw. The "chariot" is what we would today call the carriage (for carrying the log); the screw annexed to the end is to move the log sideways, to set the thickness of the resulting board.
The fondness of old-time authors for mile-long sentences, with a thousand commas, makes it hard to follow their exact meaning.
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On 8/17/2015 4:10 PM, John McCoy wrote:

I think so too, a power feed system.

Exactly
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On 08/17/2015 4:10 PM, John McCoy wrote:

I don't have any problem whatsoever following the meaning...I don't doubt it was intended _primarily_ to cut beams but it had the flexibility to "direct the pieces against the saw, agreeable to _any_ line wanted to be cut." All it takes is orientation of the workpiece.
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Some ways up thread I did.
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On 8/15/2015 6:42 PM, John McCoy wrote:

This circular argument needs to stop! ;)
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 08:48:14 -0500, Unquestionably Confused

I saw that coming.
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On 8/16/2015 12:50 PM, krw wrote:

Would that be a Saw Stop?
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@swbelldotnet says...

So if she did not invent the circular saw then what was the purpose of the circular blade design? Were the Shakers playing high-stakes Frisbee or something?
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On 8/15/2015 7:13 PM, J. Clarke wrote:

The need was for a more efficient and durable design. The dual stroke of the straight blades only cut in one direction. The return stroke was a wasted motion as far as cutting was concerned. The circular blade never has to reverse direction to continue the cycle.
I'm sure you could envision how spinning the circular blade would not be a stretch of the imagination.
No all of this is with the assumption that we both agree that a circular saw spins a circular blade.
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On 08/15/2015 07:12 PM, Leon wrote:

Ackshooley, the old two man crosscut saw I used cut on both strokes. The teeth were symmetrical in both directions.

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On 8/15/2015 9:47 PM, Doug Winterburn wrote:

Yeah,,, but were you around in the early 1800's when the circular blade was invented to replace the single stroke in the saw mill? LOL

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@swbelldotnet says...

Are you being deliberately annoying or do you have something wrong with you?
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I'm sorry if the answer is still too complicated for you to understand. I tried to explain in the simplest way that I could when you asked what seemed to be a simple question. Perhaps you did not understand the question you asked. It's not really complicated.
Reread your question several times and my answer the same amount of times. That might help.
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On 8/16/2015 8:24 AM, Leon wrote:

So just to clarify, you asked, So if she did not invent the circular saw then what was the purpose of the circular blade design?
Consider this. A saw, any saw, a circular saw, will not cut with out a blade. A blade is not a saw. A saw can be a saw with out a blade. So if you were thinking that a circular blade is a circular saw, I can see how you would be confused on the whole issue.
She came up with a better design blade, some one else came up with a way to operate the blade, The machine/tool that operates that circular blade would be called a saw, and or circular saw.
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@swbelldotnet says...

I'm sorry, but you're babbling incoherently. You've been doing enough of that lately to make me worry for your health. Please get a checkup and be sure to inform the physician that others tell you that you babble incoherently at times.
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On 8/16/2015 9:26 AM, J. Clarke wrote:

Wow grade school responses.... I have mentioned this to another here, I'll mention it again to you. You asked a question. I gave you an answer, a stupid simple answer, an answer you should have respond with DOH! Why did I not think of that. Forrest, trees. Instead you show your true colors again. May I suggest yo kill file me so that I don't bother you any more and visa versa? I certainly have never seen any benefit from anything from your comments. And you seem to be in the wrong news group since yo never build anything.
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 12:40:56 -0500, Leon wrote:

That was my solution, Leon. I think he gets his kicks from being annoying.
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On 8/16/2015 1:40 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:

I give too much credit to everyone and am reluctant to kill file any one fearing that they just might have something useful to say.
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@swbelldotnet says...

Which is why I have not killfiled you yet.
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