Table Saw purchase question

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On Sun, 09 Mar 2014 18:22:05 -0400, snipped-for-privacy@attt.bizz wrote:

So there it is. You're openly admitting that SawStop type technology has value. That's really all I was looking for you to say.
Question is, would you still consider buying a SawStop type competitor saw if prices for the clone technology were almost the same as SawStop is now?
Table saw manufacturers are in the business to make money. For all your whining about outlandish costs, what makes you think that prices will come down much when the patents expire?
In the end, you're damned if you're going to be forced into anything, even if it's good for you. Obviously, that's the point you've been trying to make all along.
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On 3/9/2014 9:19 AM, snipped-for-privacy@none.com wrote:

How many less than ten fingered woodworking people are there?
( by the way, your statement about wondering doesn't require a question mark) ;-)
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I know of three people here who have previously self identified with a tablesaw injury that could have been prevented by a SawStop if it had existed at the time of the injury. I'm not going to name them, but perhaps some will name themselves.
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On 3/9/2014 10:17 AM, snipped-for-privacy@none.com wrote:

Not to pick nits but in your initial "wonder" you didn't qualify your comment by limiting your missing fingers to "people here". What I'm alluding to is the number of woodworkers who have cut off, or nearly so, a finger when using a table saw. The statistic "might" be a persuasive number when selling a potential finger saver device. I'm not attempting to denigrate the SawStop. What I am suggesting is that it is not only a safety decision but an economic one.
SawStop "contractor" saw: $1599.
Grizzly Hybrid table saw: http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0715P $894. delivered.
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote:

--------------------------------------------------------- Who would have thought this simple post would generate 170 responses?
Lew
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Grizzly has this one for just a little more money and the latest issue of Wood magazine has an article about it.
https://www.grizzly.com/products/10-Hybrid-Table-Saw-with-Riving-Knife-Polar-Bear-Series-/G0715P
http://tinyurl.com/kw4llo2
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I'm pretty happy with my Delta hybrid, which I have had for about eight yea rs. IIRC, it has a 1.75 hp motor and mine is running on 110v. The only ti me I wish I had more oomph is ripping 2-inch hardwood; otherwise it handles everything nicely. When I bought it from Amazon there was an option to up grade to a Biesemeyer fence, but I stayed with the Delta. Plan on a 3rd pa rty miter gauge.
Larry
On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 9:28:34 PM UTC-6, snipped-for-privacy@ourgang.com wrote:

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On Wed, 5 Mar 2014 03:28:34 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@ourgang.com wrote:

In the past Grizzly's in this price range have used a throat plate that was of thin material that hard to use a zero clearance plate. If that is an issue to you then you might want to check into that.
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On 03/04/2014 08:28 PM, snipped-for-privacy@ourgang.com wrote:

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On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 9:28:34 PM UTC-6, snipped-for-privacy@ourgang.com wrote:

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Our son has owned what is pretty much that contractor's saw for about seven years. I say "pretty much" because his has the Shop Fox Classic Aluminum fence. If that fence is available for this saw (upgrade, another model) I would go for it. I have owned a Grizzly 1023 for about twelve years and t hat saw has the Shop Fox original iron fence which is pretty much a Bieseme yer clone. Love the entire package and the fence is very nice. We helped him finish out his house right after he bought it and the saw was very nice to use.
BTW - You might want to consider moving up to the Grizzly 1023 series. Sol id as a rock, good dust control and plenty of power and it sits in the same size footprint.
Ron
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On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:44:16 AM UTC-5, snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

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en years. I say "pretty much" because his has the Shop Fox Classic Aluminu m fence. If that fence is available for this saw (upgrade, another model) I would go for it. I have owned a Grizzly 1023 for about twelve years and that saw has the Shop Fox original iron fence which is pretty much a Biese meyer clone. Love the entire package and the fence is very nice. We helpe d him finish out his house right after he bought it and the saw was very ni ce to use.

olid as a rock, good dust control and plenty of power and it sits in the sa me size footprint.

OH - And what Ed P. Said above. The Saw Stop is a great looking machine bu t it is priced out of some people's range.
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On 3/4/2014 9:28 PM, snipped-for-privacy@ourgang.com wrote:

To tell you the truth this saw strongly resembles the Craftsman TS that I bought in 1983 and used for 16 years and had made a few modifications for improved accuracy. That made it tolerable for precision work.
Unless your current saw is flat worn out, you might not be upgrading at all.
I would be very concerned with the tilt wheel and how it is attached to the saw. The old Craftsman saws tilt wheel and shaft attached to the body/trunnion and on the handle end to the side of the saw. The side of the saw was simply sheet metal and if the side of the saw flexed it caused the tilt shaft and trunnion to change bevel settings. Hense the lock lever to help prevent movement after an adjustment on the Craftsman. Looking at the parts illustration it appears that part# 81 is a stiffener to help minimize the tendency. That may or may not be adequate for your purpose. Parts 58 and 59 are the locking bolt and lever to further minimize movement.
The rip fence is basically the same style as the old Craftsman and probably will be difficult to keep properly adjusted. It locks at the back end and it is very common for the locking action to pull the fence out of parallel with the blade when engaged. If it were me I would look for a Beisemeyer style fence, these are rock solid and almost never need adjustment after initial set up. They only lock down on the front bar.
Just considering Grizzly I would recommend upgrading to at least this saw if for no other reason to get the better style rip fence. There are several other reasons to list but the fence is probably never going to need to be replaced if precision is what you are looking to achieve.
http://www.grizzly.com/products/10-Hybrid-Table-Saw-with-Riving-Knife-Polar-Bear-Series/G0715P
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On 3/4/2014 9:28 PM, snipped-for-privacy@ourgang.com wrote:

And now I realized that this was not posted on March 4th a couple of days ago.. ;~(
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I know you have gotten a ton of replies, but I just got a 36" Steel City Ar tisan saw and love it. The built in roll around comes in handy, don't have to worry about rust, rock solid, only had to make ONE adjustment coming ou t of the box (one wing adjuster was a tad high), good dust collection. I s imply could not be happier and the latest price was around $900 from Tool W erks.
Deb
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On 3/9/2015 5:49 AM, Dr. Deb wrote:

I laughed at my self foe responding to this post, it is over a year old.
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On 3/9/2015 10:35 AM, Leon wrote:

Don't feel bad, we laughed at you too. <g,d&r>
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