# SWAG requested (by math impaired person:>)

• posted on November 15, 2005, 1:08 pm

Hi guys, I'm going to be moving to Tennessee this summer, and that means moving my shop and my "stash" of lumber.
I need an estimate of the weight of the lumber to determine if my trailer will carry it.
The bulk of the wood is cherry, with a fair amount of walnut and a lesser amount of aromatic cedar. The gross dimensions of the pile are 7' wide by 12' long by 4'10" high. About 1/4 of the width of the pile is 8'3" cherry, the rest are about 12' long and consist of the above woods (the cedar will amount to 1.5 feet wide by 12' long and 4' high.
I understand that only a SWAG is possible with the information given, but the collective knowledge of this group has never let me down before.
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• posted on November 15, 2005, 1:22 pm

That would be 11.5 m^3
With a *light* wood this is 6 tons, cherry is even heavier...
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• posted on November 15, 2005, 2:47 pm
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Wow... I guess my trailer doesn't have a chance! Thanks for your reply. Tom
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• posted on November 15, 2005, 2:59 pm
You have about 420 cubic feet of wood. Cherry weighs about 35lbs per cu.ft, walnut 38lbs and cedar 24lbs. We'll use cherry for the average:
35 x 420 ,700 lbs.
Hope it's a big trailer...
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• posted on November 15, 2005, 3:42 pm
Now that we have that sorted out, I'll be over with my trailer in the morning to help get some of that dead weight off your hands.....
Bob S.

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• posted on November 16, 2005, 1:25 pm
C'mon Down! Tom

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• posted on November 15, 2005, 3:45 pm

However, do the dimensions you provide include a solid mass of wood or is it separated with lathes? If so, the number calculated above would reduce significantly - but still a lot of weight.
What you didn't tell us is how far are you moving. If long distance, this might be more of a rental truck problem.
Ron
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• posted on November 15, 2005, 4:48 pm

Hi guys, Thanks for the input... No stickers, just a plank to plank pile. And based on the answers so far, I guess I'll sell some wood. I'm in Englewood, FL. and got a deal on the wood. Anyone wanting to make the journey can buy some for \$3.00 a BF. There are a few with ring shake and they'll be culled. The rest are in varying widths from 4" to 12+" all about 5/4 and between 8' and 12' (8's are all cherry). No pick and choose (if a piece is a stinker, it won't count), selling from the top down. It doesn't make sense to make a trip with nothing but the lumber... still have the shop and house contents to contend with! Tom

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• posted on November 15, 2005, 4:52 pm
Don't forget - you're moving to TN. Lots of cherry, cedar and walnut to be found. By the time you figure what you paid for it, gas, etc., you might be losing money trying to move it.
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• posted on November 15, 2005, 5:01 pm
Yup, That's why the offer to sell it. {I have stored this stuff indoors for 7-8 years now, and am loathe to part with it, but you're dead right... more costly to move than replace! (this is some of the same stuff I sent to the "Duke of URLS" as a gag some years ago) Tom

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• posted on November 15, 2005, 10:28 pm
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 08:08:24 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm,

The answer is a resounding NO, Tom. Not in one or two trips. See if you can find a locally owned truck firm who needs LTL filler loads to that area or ask your moving firm for a big break in cost.

You have roughly 280 cubic feet of cherry/walnut and 72 c/f of cedar lumber. The cherry weighs 12,768 lbs and the cedar 2,768.4 lbs according to this calc: http://www.csgnetwork.com/lumberweight.html using black cherry and red cedar weights.
It appears that the walnut is 4.8 lbs/ft, cherry 3.8, and cedar 3.1. Wood is DAMNED heavy.
G'luck!
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• posted on November 16, 2005, 10:24 am
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gonna be heavy, I was surprised at the weights posted here, though. What does LTL stand for? Tom
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• posted on November 16, 2005, 8:32 pm
LTL means less than load meanibg the truck is not filled full and can cary something else to use what would be wasted space. Larry

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• posted on November 16, 2005, 8:53 pm
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 05:24:17 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm,

Less Than (a full truck) Load.
I hauled a ton of Jarrah up here to OR when I moved. If you think cherry is heavy, try to lift a chunk of jarrah some time. It's about twice as dense.
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• posted on November 27, 2005, 6:05 am

<soapbox mode="department of nit-pickers department">
It started out as "<L>ess than <T>railer <L>oad".
Regardless, the acronym describes a shipment that is not large enough to require a dedicated truck for shipment. i.e. something that can be combined with other "LTL" shipments, in filling up a _single_ truck going to that destination.
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Trivia: for shipment by rail, the common term is "LCL" -- <L>ess than <C>ar <L>oad. It similarly describes shipments that do not require a dedicatedrailroad car.
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• posted on November 17, 2005, 10:03 pm
Where in TN, may I ask?
Bill