I used to pickup sq drive general purpose screws at Home Depot. The
brand was Western States. A 5# box was under $20 I think for 1-1/4
and 1-5/8. They also have 2", 2-1/2, 3" in the 1# box.
We moved, and neither my local HD nor Lowes seem to carry them. All
they have are phillips drive except for coated deck screws.
Is square drive sort of falling by the wayside? Any recommendations
for a general purpose woodscrew?
If you're looking for square drive, they are all over on the internet.
If you absolutely need a brick-n-mortar source, is there a woodcraft
Ours started carrying all sorts of square drive wood screws at
Also, don't be afraid to ask the HD/Lowes managers about them.
Sometimes all it takes is knowing there is a demand for them to order
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
The ones from McFeeley's in VA are good quality. In the early
90's, I picked a pretty afternoon and drove there to their
warehouse/store from our home in Raleigh. The building was very
unremarkable, but it was packed to the roof with inventory. I'm
sure they're online now and unless things have changed, they are a
1-stop shopping experience for anything in Robertson drive. In my
case, I loaded up with big boxes of the most frequently used
sizes, plus enough to do my deck. I kept the big boxes way up on
a shelf, refilling my little screw trays when needed.
The square drive screw was brought to Henry Ford's attention when he called
on manufacturers to present a screw that would speed production iver the
slotted head, way back when. He opted for the Phillips over the square
drive because he apparently wanted exclusive rights to the screw which
Robertson was not willing to give up.
I have long contended that when I take over the world, that the
fasteners used in automotives will be standardized into 2-3 types
of heads and no more than 3-4 sizes for most vehicles. A tool kit
for disassembly will fit in your hip pocket. I promise to also
standardize point of sale credit card/debit card terminals, ATM's,
soap and towel dispensers in restrooms and will refuse to let
retailers have mirror image floorplans in stores. When you walk
into one Sam's Club, it'll be like the others and not reversed,
What about gas pumps? Some have that lever to flip up, others require
you to press a button to start pumping, while others are happy to let you
put the nozzle in the filler, wait for it to reset, and pump away.
Only please make diesel, kerosene, and gas nozzles completely
incompatible with each other. The fuels are (except maybe kerosene), so
why let one nozzle or the other even fit?
Sure, but you can still put the gas nozzle in your diesel. You really
have to read everything sometimes at some gas stations. (The one I get
my diesel at has a separate pump for diesel so it's not a big deal.)
If the nozzles were completely incompatible with each other, you'd
intentionally have to mix gas and diesel. Anyone got a time machine?
BUT you can fit a gasoline nozzle in a diesel car. That happens regularly
especially when a car buyer buys a diesel for the first time. Having run a
service department at a large Olds dealership in the 80's diesels were
broungt in on the hook with tanks full of gasilone and the customer would
say, it just stopped running.
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:33:04 -0800, the infamous "Lew Hodgett"
I wouldn't know. Here in Oryguns, we elite have the little people do
that sort of thing for us.
When I first moved here, I was castigated (uh, no, Lew. I still have
my jewels. "Castigated" means "scolded".) for starting to fill my own
tank, as I had done for the previous 35 years in LoCal. Silly me.
Anywho, I think nozzles are all the same size here.
When we are planning for posterity,
we ought to remember that virtue is not hereditary.
-- Thomas Paine
Which McFeely screw is a basic all-purpose?
If I do any nicer furniture/cabinet building I generally use few metal
fasteners. Most of my screw use is for interior/exterior "rough"
projects that either get painted or may come apart at some later time,
or where I prefer the strength of a screw over a nail.
If I do any exposed exterior projects I don't mind buying the more
costly coated screws.
I honestly suppose I could get by with phillips heads and go to the
local HD or Lowes and buy the black oxide or yellow zinc. But I sort
of got spoiled with sq drive.
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