I think also, he thinks he is happy with what he has yet in another thread he is considering a different type clamp from HF. I think that he is a predigest to any comment that is contradictory to his way of thinking. I dont't mind helping some one with a my seasoned prospective but to discount every one's views is rude.
On 11/05/2015 7:07 AM, Leon wrote: ...
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Is the REVO version the only Bessey now in production; they discontinued the original/revised versions entirely?
In the period since last I did some more serious search and came to the conclusion there really are no Al or other lightweight traditional cabinet clamps available any longer...makes me wish had taken the rest of the old geezer's Lynchburg collection! :( Altho I doubt I ever do much _volume_ of work going forward; just too much other stuff in the way on the farmstead...plus age so they'd just be adding to the "collection of stuff" here as somewhere else, wherever they ended up.
Leon wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@news.giganews.com:
Yes, except I'm actually talking about the sliding head moving when I pick the clamp up (which, depending on where it is, where it's going, and whether I use one hand or two to pick it up, will have some angle from horizontal).
Worth knowing. Thanks.
Yes, the latter (either, depending on what's being clamped). For most purposes they work just fine. There's some cases where a K-body style clamp is the only thing that works, but they're pretty uncommon situations.
John
Leon wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@news.giganews.com:
The currently popular practice is to stretch-wrap stuff to a cardboard backer, then put it in a box with bubble wrap or biodegradable peanuts or some shredded paper stuff I'd call "excelsior" except no-one knows that word now-a-days.
If you're getting a whole pallet of stuff, the boxes will be stacked on the pallet and then the whole mess wrapped with about 20 yards of stretch-wrap.
John
snipped-for-privacy@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote in news:k8J_x.134$eK.110 @fx11.iad:
Hey! No speaking English allowed here...
:-)
John
It's confusing, I am confused. ;!)
The original k-bodies are done. Now there are the new Revo k-bodies with fixed and movable jaws. And of course the Jr's.
Many years ago we used the pallet stretch wrap daily. Actually you can buy 6" wide rolls at HD. We always used the 20 or so inch rolls.
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OK, thanks. I do have a couple of cabinets that are on the horizon and had thought a pair or perhaps four would be a reasonable investment; wondered if since don't do a lot of work any longer it would be possible to find old ones at less cost at a minor lack of performance--sounds like "Not!" unless can find some used/estate sale, etc., ...
Sure they do, John. It's the state motto of New York
Excelsior = Ever Upward (which will certainly be the case if you drop a match in the excelsior you're speaking of)
That stuff is worth its weight in gold. Great for many purposes and so light weight and easy to apply. Snip, snip or a careful slice and it's gone.
Whenever I head to the lumber yard to stock up for a project I have a six inch roll with me. Bunch of trim boards? Stack 'em, wrap 'em, haul 'em and when you get them set near point of use just snip 'em and they're stacked right where you want them. Much better than trying to wrangle a stack of 10' long pick up sticks through a doorway
I always have a roll of that stuff handy. I've used it to bundle up loose items while moving the girls from college apartment to college apartment, like that pole lamp that can be broken down into small sections or the bed rails, etc.
It's great for keeping the lids on storage containers that are just a bit too full and for keeping drawers/doors closed while moving furniture.
I used to use it to water proof extension cord connections for Halloween and Christmas decorations, but I tried a different method last weekend and it worked great:
Plug the device(s) into the extension cord, then fold the wires so that the device cord touches the extension cord wire. (basically, make an inverted U) Now slip a vinyl or latex glove over the plug/socket end and tightly secure the open end around the cords with a zip tie.
As long as it positioned so that the water doesn't run towards the open end of the glove, the plug/socket connection will stay completely dry.
I'm not sure that pipe clamps equates to bar clamps. I am thinking EC is referring to the heavy bar clamps with a pin that fixes the lower jaw, and a crank that tightens the moveable acme threaded jaw. They are definitely different than a pipe clamp. But still , IMHO, fall short compared to the K style clamps.
And the k style (not original bessey, unless you grind the punched down area off) can be a spreader. I have used my cabinet masters many times as a spreader. So I can confidently say they save me aggravation and saved the day.
My Cabinet masters were gotten on an amazing sale at Woodcraft online.. they announced it a week ahead, and I sat up waiting for the clock to tick, as I knew they would go fast. I think I paid on average 14 -16 a piece... I got 4 of the 24, 4 of the 36 and 4 of the 48...
I have bought a few besseys and a few woodcraft copies (don't buy them) they suck.. the heads twist... they look absolutely identical, except for the bar, but they are not. And it is not the bar that is twisting,its the head... POS
Damn, I just saw where EC referred to a bar clamp as a pipe clamp. So, we are not referring to the superior beam style bar clamp.
No, I like tools that work. Better tools do usually cost more.
No, I just stated the obvious.
The bar bends and the jaws are far from parallel. The jaws don't bite into the pipe and slip. No thank you! I threw all my pipe clamps out years ago.
Don't believe I've ever seen a non-"revo" version.
I've been tempted to buy other clamps on sale but decided it would be better to keep all the parallel clamps the same (Besseys). This keeps the work level when resting on the clamps and the accessories work on all the clamps.
Thanks for some tips. I have half a box of 12" wide rolls. I used a roll on each pallet of targets I sent out. Not only was it binding to the load but bound it to the pallet as well.
Oh the pallets had about 900 pounds of cut steel.
Mart> >>> Leon wrote in
You are right, I was confused. I think all current Bessey regular sized K-body clamps are Revo.
But the ones, on sale, that I pointed out are all of the double moving head variety vs. with the ones with a fixed end.
That may be true but in another part of the thread IIRC he mentioned the pipe clamps.
Yes! That is why I went with Cabinet Master over the original Bessey K-Bodys. That and the moveable foot on the end, and the larger clamping surface. And now if you combine 2 clamps, to make a longer one, you have to remove one of the moveable heads so that it will not be in the way.
I got mine during the period when they had aluminum bodies on the screw end. BUT shortly after that Jorgensen dropped the aluminum and used steel. I found a place that was clearing out the aluminum styles and I got a heck of a deal, similar to yours. Then all the ones with aluminum heads began to break. With a life time warranty Jorgensen replaced all
12 of my aluminum heads with steel replacements.I have 7 Bessey Revo K-Bodies. I am disappointed that they are not as durable as the Cabinet Masters. I have dropped both onto concrete floors and the Besseys always get battle wounds, not the Cabinet Masters. I am also disappointed that Bessey did not use a moveable foot. And as I have mentioned earlier my 2 Jet K-style clamps leave impressions on the project. And being truthful the Jets acme threads seem to be chrome plated and to not feel as smooth as the Bessey or Cabinet Masters.
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